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Canada rejects US terms for trade deal as 50 percent tariffs take effect - The Hill (thehill.com)

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[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Honestly I’d rather this than deal with those smarmy fucks in the White House.

You can’t trust a word they say, as evidenced by literally everything these last 10 years.

I’m done with the US. I don’t care anymore. They’re the most self centred egotistical people on the planet, and I hope that as a country they can learn how their new favourite pastime of ruining friendships and relationships damages themselves the most. But they’re a nation run by abusers and takers, with no concept of mutual benefit anymore.

It’s sad, and difficult, and painful. But that’s what an abusive relationship is.

We treated each other as brothers not very long ago. Though that’s hard to imagine with today’s discourse.

[–] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social -5 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Somehow equating Trumps own personal trade war beef with Canada and the average American person’s opinion of Canada as if every American individual is personally causing this is really nonsensical. Literally no one is out there advocating for starting shit with Canada. The president’s supporters support him, they don’t actually care what it is that he does, nor if he changes his mind 5 times this week. Everyone who isnt stupid enough to blindly support him doesnt want any of this to be happening.

So tell me again how this is an issue between Canadians and the actual American population?

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They elected him TWICE.

Until it's proven that they rigged the voting machines or something, this is what Americans as a whole asked for.

I get that's not 100% of Americans, but for the rest of my life I cannot trust that Americans won't rip up any deal and try to do whatever the fuck they want to my country. I know lots of decent good hearted Americans, but the voters and the US government are the problem, and I don't see how this relationship can ever go back. Over 10 years is a long fucking time to have been dealing with this shit and it's quickly getting worse and worse.

[–] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

Every nation gets the government it deserves.

-Joseph de Maistre

Lol twice. They musta done something bad in a past life as a nation or something.

[–] OldCrow@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 week ago

As a Canadian, I completely understand that. And I 100% sympathize with the American population that does not support him. However, in a country where a “leader” who is “democratically” elected becomes the figurehead of that country, it becomes very difficult to separate “him” from the American population. In the world’s eyes, “him” is the U.S.A. So, when we see “him” wanting to make Canada the 51st state, “him” thinking he is entitled to Greenland, “him” trying to cripple Cuba, “him” deciding Americans should be in charge of the Strait of Hormuz, it’s kinda’ hard to look at the US and say, “yah, but that’s not the American people, that’s just “him”… Unfortunately for you, He IS the American people. You have my sympathies.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

So tell me again how this is an issue between Canadians and the actual American population?

They elected him twice, and no one in Senate or Congress is trying to stop him, least of all the Democrats.

Democrats are now so useless they have replaced the word useless. "This BMW turn signal is Democrat."

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 week ago

no one in Senate or Congress is trying to stop him

By that logic, a legless frog lacks the motivation to jump; and it's entirely the frog's fault.

Gotcha.

[–] zqwzzle@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago

That how elections work… actions meet consequences.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago

They voted him in. They let him abuse his power. Trump is just showing how rotten America is.

[–] West_of_West@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago

Americans elected an anti-Canadian government. And so, this is an American population that is anti-Canada. It is a simple as that.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I have american coworkers, they are very self centered I got mine types during all this. Its been an eye opener. When trump threatened Canada one guy put up an american flag in his zoom meetings. Like read the room idiot.

[–] TeaWithDani@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I was terrified with what I heard the Liberals were ready to fold on to get a deal. I am beyond happy we are in a situation of walking away. There is nothing to gain caving on anything anymore. The US will not follow through on their agreements anyway. Give them nothing.

I think we need to focus on hard divesting from the US and focusing on our sovereignty. Cut out Microsoft, Oracle and Google from government use. Ban Facebook for its constant criminal behaviour. Remove all our data from US located or US owned datacenters. Slam Amazon on its appalling labour practices. Make Netflix pay into our culture like all media providers.

Have our laws and values respected on our soil. No more soft ball to American corporations.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The data has to off of American company data centers. Just having the data in Canada is not good enough.

[–] TeaWithDani@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Exactly, the Cloud Act is a threat to everyone's privacy and national security.

[–] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io 15 points 1 week ago

This is a better deal.

Given that they were, according to Leblanc, verbally agreeing to things and then writing down that we agreed to something completely different, and then reopening those points to push even more.

This is a much better deal.

[–] recursive_recursion@piefed.ca 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

You'd think that Trump would learn by now that this hurts American citizens more than Canadians but eh, maybe in the next life I guess

[–] OldCrow@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

Trump doesn’t care if it hurts Americans. Trump only cares about his whining whims being met. He’s at best a narcissist, and most probably a psychopath.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

You'd think that Trump would learn by now that this hurts American citizens

The flaw in that line of thinking is rhat Teump doesn't actually care if the American people are being hurt or not.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not true though. Companies look for cheaper alternative so they can make more profit. They'll charge the same and blame tariffs but it still hurts Canada.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

like all the potash they can now buy from friendly Iran… oh wait

[+] mickjoe@lemmy.zip -16 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It was pretty clear the deal the feds agreed to was not acceptable to SOME provinces who were the ones who rejected it. The feds begged the provinces but they shut Carney's crappy bad deal down. Just yesterday the feds were telling us it was the best deal, THEY WERE CHAMPIONING IT! Thank you to those Premiers for standing up to our weak and pathetic PM who is leading our country to ruin, but that's fine for him as most of his wealth (over 90%) is invested in the USA. Carney's family doesn't even live in Canada.

[–] OldCrow@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Albertan? FOX News viewer? Illiterate?

[–] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

PP's sock puppet account?

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Carney and his family live in Ottawa, except for one daughter attending a US university.

In 2025, the Leader of the Progressive Conservative party was Andrew Scheer, a US citizen. Jamil Jirvani, PC MP, is best friends with JD Vance and helped Vance run a fake charity in Ohio. Jirvani stated at the time in 2018 the irregularities were due to his stage 4 cancer. That was 8 years ago.

You are projecting harder than an IMAX theatre.

[–] Corvid_Moon@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I still find it so absurd that we even allow citizens of foreign countries to be leaders & members of political parties in Canada.

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

Just yesterday the feds were telling us it was the best deal, THEY WERE CHAMPIONING IT!

From your source

“They have worked hard, in good faith, to defend the interests of Canadians throughout these negotiations up until the very last minute,” Carney continued. “However, last-minute changes in the U.S. proposed terms were unfair, uneconomic, and called into question the reliability of any deal.”

From another source: https://globalnews.ca/news/12031459/united-states-canada-trade-talks-issues/

Carney also said the United States wanted to include terms in the deal that would put limits on the trade deals Canada was able to seek with other countries.

Since tariffs were first levied on Canadian goods, Ottawa has sought new trade deals with countries around the world, positioning itself as a key “middle power.”

Deals with Indonesia and the United Arab Emirates and talks with India are among the agreements Canada has recently reached, with 20 deals touted by the prime minister’s office.

“The U.S. introduced, in the last hours, efforts to restrict our ability to have other trade deals,” Carney said Saturday.

“We believe in free trade; we’re the partner of choice in many respects for countries around the world, and the Americans wanted to restrict that. They had language that they wanted to restrict. Unacceptable.”

I'm annoyed with Carney over a lot of things, but this deal was idiotic and that is why almost every single Canadian elected official agreed with rejecting it