Nobody has any intention of building a wall
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Putin is deranged but I thought even he knew he already bit more than he could chew when attacking Ukraine. But now the orange says this and I fear Putin will go full crash out on Europe.
Trump is the same imperialist like Putin, U.S. is the same imperialist like Russia.
Now we’re fucked
Russia is already attaching NATO with hybrid warfare. Russia wants to destabilize Europe as european countries are helping Ukraine defence against Russia.
Russia is not attaching Europe militarily, but attaching the European institutions to make Europe incapable to act, extend influence and defend itself. And China is helping as they have the same objective.
There are some interesting predictions from Metaculus, a prediction aggregation platform:
That thing is just a betting platform, isn't it?
It harnesses the wisdom of the crowds. Obviously not infallible, but that's why the chances are percentages.
Not really. It's a forecasting platform. It weights the forecasts based on previous success of forecasters. So when people have forecasted something well in past it is more probable that they will forecast it well also now.
Trump: “Putin personally promised me that he wouldn’t attack NATO. And I believe him”
Putin: busy attacking NATO through assassinations, covert sabotage, armed drones and cyberwarfare
donald trump says a lot of shit. donald trump likes to talk.
I mean, has this man ever told a single lie?
now i am worried
Even if Russia attacks NATO, umm....what will Putin get out of it? He's already preoccupied in Ukraine. He had to recall contingents of Russian mercenaries from Africa to fight in Ukraine. He has trouble keeping his vassal states from fighting each other because there are no Russian troops to keep them in line. His economy is starting to shake. The war is unpopular among Russians even if they don't admit it openly. And of course, the mobilisation is a very delicate topic that will instantly turn any pro- or Putin tolerant Russians into vehemently anti-Putin ones. Needless to say, he will be stretching Russian resources and patience in vain attempt to stoke his ego.
Attacking NATO directly will accelerate Russian decline even further. So, even though I get that we should be prepared for any possibilities, it's way stupider of Putin to even seriously consider attacking NATO.
Even if Russia attacks NATO, umm....what will Putin get out of it?
Return on investment. Russia hasn't switched to war economy for nothing. War economy is unsustainable unless you invade and pillage rich countries, and Ukraine isn't one
Even if Russia attacks NATO, umm…what will Putin get out of it?
It would be a big issue for EU. It's economy is on the verge of recession and attack on any member would most likely cause EU wide disruptions and economic slowdown. Russia is very dependent on China now so the questions is: what would China get out of economic troubles in EU? And the answer is "a lot".
He forgot to say which year of territory boundaries he meant. Can Trump remember the time after 1989 and does Putin want to remember it too?
That means they gonna totally do it guys
Sigh oookay, expecting to be recalled into service any day now...
So NATO territory will definitely get attacked, got it.
Yeah pretty much guaranteed at this point.
But it will be a total surprise for our politicians: Nobody could have seen this coming.
And if somebody does see it coming: Putler wouldn't be so stupid to do it.
Guess what, he will be stupid enough. Then it's time to write a strong worded letter I guess. I really hope european leaders will show a closed front and fight back with absolute determination.
Putin’s puppet says what
Russia can’t handle a blindsided Ukraine.
They even had the advantage of starting with Crimea, a large naval base INSIDE enemy territory, and the Kerch Bridge.
And vast, vast Soviet stockpiles of shells, rockets, tanks, bombs.
Honestly, I thought Russia attacking NATO by 2030 was a little far fetched (a war against one smaller country is not going particularly well) but this legit raises my guess it'll happen by some 10% or so?
Russians know that nobody wants WW3, and they don’t want it too, actually. But they’re willing to exploit Western cautiousness on that matter - that’s why possibility of “limited incursions” has been brought up quite a few times recently, where they’ll just start chipping pieces of their neighbours, small enough for Russian friends like US to prevent organised collective defense answers.
Welp doesn't sound good
Not sure who's the bigger liar here: Trump or Putin.
Well, one is a retarded fascist, while the other is just a fascist. So I guess it's stupid lies, and lies.
In this case, I bet Putin, and Trump is just the useful idiot, like usual.
One is a liar, the other is –although he is technically telling the same lie– just a brain-dead parrot.
Wouldn't be so sure. Maybe Putin gave him some vague assurances without really committing to anything, and Trump provided the rest.
Trump is very much capable of actively lying.
Hmmm... probably yes.
Nato is magnitudes stronger than Russia, even without the US, even with the US feeding Russia inside information and helping them.
What nato countries don't have is strong leadership. Any attack on nato however would be small and calculated to be under the threshold that would warrant a response from our milquetoast leaders in the west.
Oh Shit!
And Trump never lied before in his life
Let me introduce you to my friend Neville Chamberlain.
Define NATO territory, buddy
I'd like to believe that two* liars make a statement true. Yet statements like these only point to where they want us to focus attention... So we normally could ignore the whole thing, and return to the thing they want us to ignore....
So.... they* are going to attack soon?
The US MIC is in an ongoing proxy war and this is in regards to recent attacks on trade and energy, and they're now worried that Russia will fund similar attacks or take advantage of depleted US munitions.