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Every food commercial, advertisement, and packaging in the US is currently protein obsessed. I just bought 3 burritos, and the most noticeable thing on the entire package is its protein content. TV commercials about waffles are advertising that they have X amount of protein per serving. The products in my jobsite's vending machine have protein all over every package.

Did America have a protein thing recently?

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 6 minutes ago

i think its the anti fat messaging, and sugar messaging going on.

Because every time they try to eat something, it's recalled.

[–] Soleos@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

This thread rightly points out all the excesses of capital-fueled social trends.

Less mentioned is that a higher protein breakfast ~20-30g vs traditional carb-heavy breakfast is actually helpful for more stable morning energy (less sugar crash), cognitive clarity, and reduced snack cravings especially later in the day. Search any of your reputable health sources and you'll likely find something to that effect. I don't believe it's particularly disputed at this point.

[–] fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com 1 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Is it because of less carb or high protein? If I eat veggies do I get the same result?

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 minutes ago

Mostly no, but the mostly is because most vegetables aren't as high in protein. If you eat protein rich vegetables the effect holds.
Some starches and fiber also have the effect, since metabolism is complicated. I believe potato is quite high on the satiety index, as are apples.

Basically it's that your body just absorbs sugar and doesn't spend time on it, so it doesn't satisfy you. Carbs are pretty quick, but depending on the fiber content it can more than make up for it. Your body cherishes fat so it tries to get you to drink it. Protein is useful calories that take a lot of work to rip up, and they occupy space.

An apple and a bowl of lentil curry will fill you up.

[–] Soleos@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Protein takes longer to metabolize into energy than carbs, hence you don't crash like with carbs. Starchy veggies give you carbs, low-carb veggies don't have protein or carbs so you'll just be extra tired.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 10 points 10 hours ago

Influencer slop. That's literally it.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 10 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

A lot of Americans have been convinced lack of protein is why they keep gaining weight and aren't muscular. Testosterone is in a similar position. These can be concerns for people who are low in them, or for people struggling at high levels of fitness. But it's largely just influence from diet influencers repeating gym bro advice.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

There's also a straight line between bro culture, testosterone supplements, and fascism

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[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (3 children)

Sufficient protein intake is very important when it comes to gaining healthy weight, or retaining muscle mass as you either diet or age. Most people do not get enough protein intake their daily meals, and unlike other things like potassium, iron or vitamins, there’s no easy over the counter pill you can swallow to level that out. In the U.S. people that haven’t been intentional with their diets usually tend towards very carb-heavy diets.

Companies put what they think people care about on their packaging. In the 90’s it was “low fat”. It’s trendy right now in America to eat healthier (perhaps due to fast food abandoning Americans for unsustainable profits) and one of the first two things any American will learn when you start actually paying attention to what you eat is that 1. You’re probably eating too many calories, and 2. You’re not eating enough protein.

[–] CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Most Americans get significantly more protein than they need, men by ~30% and women by ~15%. Even if you look at the new wildly unscientific federal guidelines saying to get more protein (this is a top down “problem”) Americans tend to still get more than that, but it is closer. A huge problem is the over reliance on animal proteins causing the other issues and the huge lack of fiber Americans struggle with.

[–] natecox@programming.dev 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Preach. It's upsetting how the system has either failed to properly inform or actively misinformed so many people on this topic.

[–] BlackVenom@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

My favorite part of the debate are the sources

[–] natecox@programming.dev 1 points 7 hours ago

Reinforcing what another comment has already said: the idea that we don't get enough protein is horse shit, we get way way more than we need. Which, and this is important, your body just has to filter out putting stress on vital organs.

I've heard this claim countless times, usually from people trying to shit on plant based eating, and it simply has no basis in fact. Even fully plant based eating gives you plenty of protein.

Something you don't commonly see: people getting treated for protein deficiency.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 hours ago

Where did you learn that Americans don’t meet their protein needs?

[–] dregan@lemmy.world 14 points 15 hours ago

It's got what plants crave.

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 16 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

It's the prevalence of drugs like Ozempic. They cause people to eat a negative calorie diet so it's very important that they keep their protein intake at or above their requirements. If they don't, they will lose muscle at a dangerous rate.

Pretty sure these drugs are just creating huge heart health problem we'll see in the future.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 3 points 14 hours ago

You will also feel like shit without it

[–] Toasticus@piefed.social 2 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

"Sugar-Free" Candy will always amuse me.

[–] yyyesss@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago

they wouldn't if you were diabetic.

or maybe they would, but differently than you're implying.

[–] Akasazh@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

Certainly tic-tacs, which are 100% sugar

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 6 points 15 hours ago

this is a question that someone who's not getting enough protein would ask

[–] TheUnicornOfPerfidy@feddit.uk 43 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

It turns out the answer is realy very long, but it's a hell of a ride. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K35FtbuyTh4

TLDW:
It's a right-wing grift. The Leftist Cooks argue that carnivore and “protein-maxxing” diets are not about health; they’re tied to masculinity, control, grift, and far-right politics. They use figures like Jordan Peterson and the Liver King to show how restrictive meat-heavy high protein diets can become symbols of power, identity, and pseudo-scientific authority.

The broader argument is food is never just food. Dietary choices can carry cultural meaning, political signaling, and ideological pressure, and that high protein culture is part of a larger ecosystem that can normalize authoritarian, anti-science, and anti-egalitarian thinking.

The video is excellent though. It's basically a miniseries on the various causes and effects of this and it's incredibly well put together, even if it is 6 hours long. 😱

[–] Zizzy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 12 hours ago

I came in here to link this video too! Its very good

[–] isyasad@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Haha I watched this a couple weeks ago.
Another really important point they make is that even among athletes, extra protein intake does not really help. Athletes only have higher protein intake because their overall caloric intake is higher. Studies show that increased protein intake is only associated with higher athletic performance when it is alongside increased intake of other nutrients (carbs). I was looking at a meta analysis a few days ago. I don't have the link but I took this screenshot.

So a "protein shake" is not likely to help you unless you were already protein deficient, which as somebody else pointed out in this thread, is not likely for Americans who over consume meat.

Disclaimer: I am not an expert.

[–] dreamkeeper@literature.cafe 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

It really depends. If you're actively working out, you need more protein than most people eat in a day. It doesn't have to be from meat obviously, but I need to target around 140g and I was no where near that until I changed my diet. There's plenty of science behind protein tastes for active people without dipping into right wing grifters.

The shake is pretty much a necessity for me since I'm also trying to lose weight. If it weren't the shake it'd be chicken or fish but that's a lot of extra cooking.

[–] TheUnicornOfPerfidy@feddit.uk 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Oh, I have another much much shorter video that summarises a meta analysis that backs this up. It says that more proteins may actually even lead to marginally reduced muscle gains. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j1bx0GMofYw&pp=ugUEEgJlbg%3D%3D

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