Today I Learned

Literally sharia law honor killings.

We have lost texas

"As I lifted the gun to show her I suddenly heard a loud bang," Kris allegedly said. "I did not understand what had happened. Lucy immediately fell."

Bullshit. This means he took a loaded gun, failed to clear it, put the barrel in the direction of a person, and pulled the trigger. Guns don't just "go off". All while having admitted to relapsing on alcohol. I count four mistakes there, where any one of them not having been made would have prevented this incident.

It's almost like you'd have to intend to make that series of mistakes.

I think about this girl all the time. Her own father shot her over Trump. Trump. I just can't wrap my head around it. Or around the jury deciding to just let him go. There's corruption there somewhere.

Manslaughter in front of a grand jury didn't even stick. It's like the prosecutor had vacation plans didn't want to to reschedule.

The awful thing is that if the family is behind the alcoholic trump father since he is still alive, there is no one left to bring justice in her name. Is she just to be forgotten and swept under the Texas rug?

As I say, the love they have for even their own children is entirely conditional. They will make you the enemy and kill you at a moment's notice. If you have MAGA in your family, kick them out of what they can come to. Ostracization from family and society is the only nice thing we can do against them.

He claimed he had a conversation about guns with his daughter and she asked to see the gun, having never discussed his gun ownership with him before.

In the statement, Kris Harrison, who admitted drinking wine earlier in the day, said: "As I lifted the gun to show her I suddenly heard a loud bang. I did not understand what had happened. Lucy immediately fell."

He told police who attended the scene: "We got it out to have a look and just as I picked it up it just went off."

The inquest heard a grand jury in the US had determined there was insufficient evidence to charge anyone in connection with Lucy Harrison's death.

Well. I guess the moral of the story is do not visit the USA.

I'm here about the title.

The local jury

Grand jury.

He was immediately released

Yes, that's how this works.

Now, bear in mind, I'm only here about the part of this from the title that I quoted. For anyone outraged by that part, no.

The way this works:

1. A matter is put before a grand jury. Only evidence submitted is by the prosecutor. Nothing from the defense. The standard of evidence is "probable cause", which is a very very low standard. Basically, unless someone screwed something up massively, there will almost always be sufficient probable cause for a case to go forward.

2. If probable cause is indeed found, the case will proceed. It may eventually have a trial by jury, where both sides present their case and a jury decides - for civil matters the standard is preponderance of the evidence (i.e. majority of evidence seems guilty or not), for criminal it's beyond a reasonable doubt, meaning it seems pretty clear and any evidence that is against seems unlikely.

So speaking generally, when indictment in front of a grand jury fails, it means one of something like these happened:

1. Fundamental evidence failed "probable cause". For example, say it resulted from a traffic stop, but it was found that the traffic stop had no legal justification. Because of "fruit of the forbidden tree", it might be entirely thrown out
2. Perhaps the prosecutors failed to get their shit together on evidence
3. Perhaps, as is theorized by some in this case, the prosecutor felt they had to present the case, but threw it on purpose, sort of like a prosecutorial nullification, if you will

So again, not talking about the case (I've discussed/debated in other threads - this is not a new story), just the parts of the title that make it clear OP doesn't understand the difference between a jury and a grand jury. :)

I'd rather KILL my OWN DAUGHTER then to say Trump is WRONG!

-LITERALLY Republicans!

Imo, if it was your gun, unless it was literally stolen from a locked gun safe, anyone who dies by it is automatically your fault.

Doesn't really matter what the circumstances were. If anyone is even in a position to be injured or killed by your weapon, it usually means you acted negligently in either handling or storing the weapon.

Would be a shame if someone shot him for his political beliefs. A damn shame.

I'll never understand the appeal and hold Trump has on the minds of weak men who worship him. This man killed his own daughter is insane.

honor killings...

I hope they were immediately released if you can't get an indictment. The reason they couldn't get an indictment is because the prosecutor didn't really want one. Grand juries only really hear what the prosecutor wants to tell them. That's why it's said you can get an indictment on a ham sandwich. If the prosecutor just said "he shot her after an argument" with no exculpatory evidence he would've gotten an indictment and that would've been okay and cool with the US supreme Court.

Fascism is alive and well in Texass.

That's a funny way of saying murdered...

Ah, the original use of jury nullification.

Coroners don't determine whether a death is lawful or not...