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Reminds me of this:

An ex-convict gave horrific insight into serving in the Russian army, saying his officers refused to collect the dead bodies of soldiers from the battlefield so that the Russian military wouldn't have to pay their families, according to The New York Times.

In an interview, the soldier who served in one of the Russian Ministry of Defense's convict units — who was identified as "Aleksandr" — told the Times he was ordered not to collect the bodies of his fellow troops.

He told the Times that officers could register the men as "missing in action," meaning their families couldn't collect compensation for them being killed in battle.

One shitty dictator starting a completely unwarranted war doing the same thing as another shitty dictator running a completely unwarranted war.

I've said it forever: Screwing over veterans is more American than apple pie. We've been doing it since the American Revolution.

I can't imagine President Pedophile being the one to change that. He doesn't even care enough to pretend.

If it’s not officially a war, what happens if a combatant chooses not to engage?

I suspect they’d be court martialled as if it were refusing a wartime order.

... That might be the excuse they're using.

The reality is that they don't have the money because they spent it on bombing schools for young girls.

fuckers need to fuck right off to the fuckerville composting center.

please stop joining the military

and they'll still vote for pedo-in-chief

Think about the bright side: If all countries stop using the term "war", then we've achieved world peace!! /s

Pentagon & GOP: Fuck you for your service.

Imagine joining the US military.

This should not surprise anyone. We've known Trump has nothing but contempt for our service members for years. It wasn't even limited to his comments about John McCain's five years as a POW either...

Trump: Americans Who Died in War Are ‘Losers’ and ‘Suckers’ published by The Atlantic on Sept 3rd 2020.

Congress can basically make "non wars" into wars for benefits.

OEF and OIF cover post 9/11 up to like 2010 in most of the middle east.

It could be fixed right now, but trump and the Republicans won't.

But the real solution has always been giving everyone the benefits disabled vets get

You also can't lose a war if it isn't a war! 😅

So they are eating slightly more healthy than someone eating boot soles as only meal of the day, they are being deployed for months without rest and they are dying in combat (or combat-related operations) BUT they are not at war so them and their families can't get benefits from it BUT ALSO they can't return home because they not at war but they are at war at the same time (which is not a war because the Congress didn't say so).

Are you trying to piss off the army and make the people with weapons turn against you? Because this is how you piss off the army and make the people with weapons turn against you.

I am not a fan of the military, but man, Hegseth and Trump are driving people away in droves with this kind of crap.

Oh well.

The department of war, at war? How ridiculous.

You all elected a conman and then act surprised after being conned?

MAGA winning all over the place!

JD Vance gets asked about the widows case and he responds to the journalist "send me her contact info so I can discuss it with her" as if he isn't the second most powerful person in his country and already has full access to all of the info but doesn't care. If they have to start paying out benefits to dead soldiers it might become more clear how many service members have actually died.

There are likely more fatalities of American soldiers but they are hiding them behind mission secrecy.

I don't know ... they followed the obviously illegal orders to go to war without congressional approval. They betrayed their oath to the constitution and favored Trump instead. Getting stiffed by Trump, as everyone expects of Trump, seems hardly something we should care about. Trump called them suckers, they chose to turn their backs on USA and follow Trump. It is of course sad when anyone gets hurt, but being willing participants in an unlawful and unjust war that is only about moving the stock market to make Trump rich ... when Trump has betrayed the constitution practically every day ...

So are they going to rename the Department of Defense again?!

I can't fucking believe this. Well, i can because 🍊☝️

Fucking disgusting Russia-tier semantics.

I know people frown on “that other site,” but there’s an excellent, and sadly incomplete (I suspect), listing of all the ways The Idiot and his administration have gleefully fucked over veterans.

Reddit

No, right, it's just a Special Military Operation.

When Vance was asked about this at a press conference, he asked the reporter for the widow's contact information (because the Pentagon doesn't have it?), and assured that she would get everything she's entitled to.

What do you want to bet that she'll receive a visit from some military goons, who will tell her that she will get ALL that she is entitled to, which is NOTHING, because he didn't die in an official war, and if she doesn't shut the fuck up about it, she'll be arrested and deported to Africa for being an undocumented alien?

It's a really stupid idea to upset the military while they're on active duty. Well, America might get their first military uprising.

Military coup when?

is it a "special military operation"?

Since its inception, the US government has never liked paying soldiers for war. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennsylvania_Mutiny_of_1783

Alexander Hamilton didn't even want to pay the IOUs back, until he decided that many were owned by investors that had bought them from soldiers. The quote was something to the effect of, "those investors are true Americans and they should get their money." The Dollop podcast has a good 4-parter on Hamilton that covers that and other issues.