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Ugh. Ever since the pandemic, writers replace "injections" with "jabs", and I hate it.
And replace “tips” with “hacks”.
No, that's just UK jargon.
It's still showing up in US media from time to time.
I've been on Ozempic and then switched to mounjaro and while Ozempic worked really well at stopping food noise, Mounjaro does very little for some reason. I hate that the food noise is still present and I can absolutely confirm that bloody hormones ruin everything because I'm literally rage-eating before a period.
I wish I could go back on Ozempic but my GP says they're not allowed to switch me back because MJ works at controlling my blood sugar, which is why I'm getting it - not for losing weight. Even though my BMI is 43 and I could use some help.
What about Zepbound? I tried that for a few months (was like 25 lbs overweight) and I shed the excess off with very little side effects. I stopped taking it 3 months ago and have only gained about 2 lbs back.
I'm very happy for you, keep up the good work! It's important to use the GLP1 to build good habits.
Thanks! I gained most of the excess weight after divorcing and drinking more than usual. Trying to get used to the new norm, one step at a time!
Can you switch your GP?
Unfortunately this is NHS guidelines so no matter what GP I go to they'll probably tell me the same thing. I can't afford the private prescription either so I'll just be grateful for what I can get.
It irritates me because MJ is much more expensive and I'd love to try to help reduce costs.
Maybe you could lie and tell a new GP, that you have some bad side effects from MJ
That's always a bad idea. That's part of your medical records, and could influence future options when your health changes. Say you're I'm hospital for something pancreas related, and they need to use something to manage your blood sugar long enough to get your body working right again. If you say that you've poorly tolerated a drug, they'll deprioritze not only that drug, but ones similar to it, in favor of ones that you've tolerated or haven't had at all, whether or not the original drug is a better choice.
I'm all for navigating a complex system with created data when it's necessary, but you really, really only want to do it when there aren't other options. And, as much as it sucks, the drug they're on is often better for the reason they're on it instead of others. Lying to switch back would be detrimental to their overall health
Lying to switch back would be detrimental to their overall health
*could be
No, would be. I chose the word for a reason. That reason being that the drugs in question and the reasons they're prescribed would absolutely, 100% lead to issues if changed by deceit.
You don't fuck with shit that moderates your blood sugar without careful consideration, and they titration on/off.
Those issues may or may not be major, but even minor changes to blood sugar and a1c away from targets cause accumulated problems. This isn't hypothetical. Treatment of "borderline" diabetes in specific (as well as full diabetes, obviously) is a fairly careful balance. Just switching between something like metformin and ones of the injectables is a step to be taken with careful consideration.
There are hypothetical situations in which lying to your doctor to manipulate which drugs you get becomes a possible health risk rather than a certain one, but it's still fucking stupid, and it's stupid to recommend anyone do so. Diabetes ain't one of them.
With ozempic vs mounjaro, the less selective (or more general, if you prefer) action of mounjaro has concrete benefits to a1c control, and if your doctor is switching you, there's a reason. Lying interferes with best practices, period; lying about something that's as fiddly and risky as diabetes, well, it's like wu-tang.
Just so you know, if you're going to *fix shit, you might want to know what the fuck you're talking about. That goes double when the person you think you're correcting has a background in medicine. Don't be a douche, in other words.
Don't be a douche, in other words.
Don't be a douche with insults.
OP was using ozempic before without problems, that's why I proposed that.
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You don't know what you're talking about re: medications.
You're giving horrible advice.
You are implying that you know about medication a lot.
What are the particular bad consequences of using ozempic vs mounjaro?
Answer to that question would make your point clearer.
P.S.
Medical professionals, unfortunately, are not infallible nor are they always professional or acting in patient best interests.
My doctor prescribed me umifenovir for example.
Generally, though, I would rely on their opinion, with double checking via other specialists , if possible.
I think lying to your GP is a bad path to take. The clinical pathways exist for a reason.
Saving money, mostly
The clinical pathways exist for a reason.
It's a nuanced matter. For example, in my country there are known quackery drugs (eg drug of unproven efficacy and even proven inefficacy) in clinical pathways.
To deny care
I'd rather not tbh, I may or may not have taken the 5 Buddhist precepts. Anyway I am losing weight on MJ, albeit very slowly so when I raised the subject my GP told me not to be impatient and he's probably right, it's not a race.
Try reta