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[–] kirklennon@kbin.social 204 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (14 children)

The confusing alphabet soup of Wi-Fi versions got renamed. 802.11n became Wi-Fi 4, 802.11ac became Wi-Fi 5, and 802.11ax became Wi-Fi 6. Wi-Fi 7 is still in development so 6 is the best in-use version.

[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 83 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Technically 6E is the best in-use version for compatible devices. Same as WiFi 6 but adds the 6GHz spectrum that was recently unlocked by many regulatory agencies around the world. The 6GHz range is significantly less congested and would have better real-world performance in dense residential areas.

Edit: A few months ago I stumbled upon this site where the author goes quite in-depth about WiFi and does so in a way that is easy to understand. They debunk/corroborate claims and technologies advertised by manufacturers so it really helps demystify the process of selecting the right WiFi gear.

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's funny that WiFi is alphabet soup as the other comment mentioned, they rebranded to a single, simple number...then chucked an E on the end.

I get how/why, but it's just funny.

[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Strykker@programming.dev 13 points 2 years ago

Usb could have been great, then they decided that with every minor version bump they needed to go back and fuck with the name of the previous version..

Like FFS just do 3(5gbps) 3.1(10gbps) 3.2(20gbps) etc or whatever the fucking difference even is between them all at this point.

[–] Paradox@lemdro.id 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

6E is great, but basically nothing supports it. I got a 6E capable AP from Ubiquiti, and looking at my devices table, basically nothing has ever used the 6GHz radio. My house has a wide variety of devices, many new. The only thing that's used it is my MacBook

[–] derpo@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

And that MacBook must get unparalleled speed and airtime

[–] Clusterfck@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 2 years ago

I got over a 1 gigabit download on my S23 Ultra and still couldn't believe that 10 years ago 10 megabit on wifi was considered decent.

[–] Paradox@lemdro.id 2 points 2 years ago

It's the absolute best computer I've ever owned. Maxed out it's ram and everything just flies

[–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What speeds are you getting on your MacBook?

[–] Paradox@lemdro.id 2 points 2 years ago

Smidge over 1.1Gbps peak, average probably around 900Mbps.

[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago

Most new devices support 6E at this point with the exception of low-cost phones/computers and IoT devices.

[–] NanoooK@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

That is a wonderful website, very well written. Thanks for sharing.

[–] worsedoughnut@lemdro.id 20 points 2 years ago

pre-numbering, it was almost like trying to decipher Sanskrit when going out to buy a router.

[–] towerful@programming.dev 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

WiFi has literally gone the opposite of USB.
It used to be obvious what USB speeds were, whereas WiFi was 802.11b or whatever.
Now we have WiFi 5 or WiFi 6. And we have USB-C PD 10gbps with AltMode

[–] hyperhopper@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

USB has gotten more complicated and does way more now in more contexts. It charges laptops now, it carries multiplexed displayport signals, it does its own handshake and performs hardware level initialization protocols.

Meanwhile we've been wanting the same thing out of wifi since the start. Nothing's really changed, we just want it to go faster.

[–] anlumo@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You’re thinking of USB-C, not the USB standard. USB PD, Alternative Mode and Thunderbolt aren’t part of the USB spec.

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[–] favrion@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (4 children)
[–] kirklennon@kbin.social 37 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The very simple version is that the newer versions support faster speeds.

[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I would add the potential for better range as well from a variety of improvements.

Newer WiFi standards can take advantage of multiple frequencies in a single link, which allows for fallback on the slower, but longer range, 2.4GHz networks. Beamforming has been available since at least WiFi 5 (802.11ac) and helps connection quality as well. The new 6GHz spectrum is uncongested and gives better performance in areas with high saturation of 2.4GHz and 5GHz networks, such as apartments and highrises.

[–] CluelessLemmyng@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Range is definitely not better with 6. 6 has larger bandwidths, and is less congested right now because of all the IoT devices using 2.4 and 5 Ghz bands. This will change eventually. 2.4 still has the best range.

[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago

WiFi 7 (802.11be) has Multi-Link Operation (MLO) where it uses both 6 GHz, 5 GHz, and 2.4 GHz frequencies simultaneously to always maximize bandwidth at a given range.

[–] derpo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lots of really cool little things that add up to making it faster

https://youtu.be/j5egLKTwOt0

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[–] Squirrel@artemis.camp 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It means it is only 1/3 evil

[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

That's... Not how any of this works 🤔

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