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A Boring Dystopia

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"The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) is now only counting costs to businesses when considering regulation on key pollutants, internal documents show, rather than considering human lives saved by such caps."

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[–] Z745812939054@lemmy.zip 128 points 6 days ago (1 children)

it's going to take fucking decades to even begin to unfuck this place...

[–] CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 65 points 6 days ago (2 children)

It’s going to take a revolution and probably the break up of the US into individual countries

[–] Z745812939054@lemmy.zip 30 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

yea, see how well texafloribamassippigia does on their own

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 6 days ago

Tbh I do not want that country as a neighbor

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It would be really funny in a heartless way to see all the red states collapse. Big "I fucking told you so" opportunity.

Unfortunately, it would take a long time and a lot of innocent people would die. Also they'd probably start wars

[–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Blue states just need to stop giving money to the federal government and the red states will very quickly get back in line.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I agree with the first part, but you are wrong that they just fall in line.

[–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 3 points 5 days ago

Cut off all the money and red states will buckle.

How do you suppose that would work? Functionally?

[–] CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Someone is writing upthe horror movie script as we speak

[–] Z745812939054@lemmy.zip 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

i'd be impressed if any fictional horror story ever even came close to how horrifying real life is

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 1 points 5 days ago
[–] Redjard@reddthat.com 2 points 5 days ago

New forever chemical just dropped.

[–] Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

So, the thing the tech oligarchs said they are intentionally destroying the country to do?

[–] CrimeIsLegalNow@ani.social 7 points 5 days ago

We could round up conservatives and put them in camps instead, if that's more palatable for you.

[–] Phantom_Feline17@lemmy.zip 41 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Holy shit. I've seen Saturday morning cartoon villains who were more subtle than this.

[–] multifariace@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

You're right. I have been trying to rationalize the simplicity of Captain Planet villains to make the show relevant enough to make a new live action series. Our capitalistic overlords may have opened up the story line.

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 58 points 6 days ago (1 children)

So they're going to include the costs my business has to pay for increased health and life insurance premiums?

[–] Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago

Which, should be noted, is still a significant downgrade.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

As a restaurant owner, having indoor toilets takes away space from tables, and costs me money. People should just shit in the streets instead. Indoor toilet regulations are just woke radical left hatred of America. Cholera is covered by health insurance anyways, and woke fake-pandemic commies complaining about it should just inject some bleech if they don't want to die like they deserve.

[–] gigaqps@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

There better be none of them transgenders shitting in the same street my daughter shits in!

[–] JustPlainDave@lemmy.zip 33 points 6 days ago (2 children)

When will they realize that money is useless when you're dead?

[–] Kwiila@slrpnk.net 3 points 5 days ago

One of the noted traits required to build incredible amounts of wealth is that they would rather die on top watching the world burn, than save the world from burning and lose wealth/status/rank.

Silly PlainDave, Bob Kraft and Ed Sheeran can't die.
Why look at all their life experience so far.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

EPA exists only to save human lives/illness. Protecting the commons as well as private victims. It should exist for that function.

Headline is saying EPA should no longer exist, if all rules that protect people will be removed.

[–] NotEasyBeingGreen@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 days ago

Welcome to the Grand Old Party.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 25 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] Spiv@lemmy.world 29 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

So it's the Corporate Cash Protection Agency now?

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Seriously. Human lives or not, how is not considering pollution protecting the environment? Humans are not the only living things in the environment.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago (2 children)

billionaires have their bunkers, they dont' care about what fresh hell they create on the surface.

Yeah but before that they have their private islands and valleys that they keep pristine so they and only they can go do stuff in it. They turn into environmentalists overnight when talking about the land they play in. Mostly shooting animals, but some light atving also.

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

The true tragedy of the commons.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.today 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Conservatives did this. May they suffer the worst effects of it for the remainder of their valueless lives.

[–] nosuchanon@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

Spoiler: they won’t.

[–] Arancello@aussie.zone 18 points 5 days ago

its just evil

[–] r1veRRR@feddit.org 11 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Don't Lives Lost also impose costs and lost revenue on businesses? Even from a business standpoint, killing a bunch of people is bad for business.

[–] Bakkoda@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

Capitalism simply assumes unlimited resources. Labor is a resource.

[–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 days ago

Those costs can be passed onto governments. Much like salary subsidies in the form of food stamps.

The corporate world is doing a PE style takeover of government, and non-workers are simply an externality.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 days ago

True, but that's less than including the value of lives directly.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 13 points 5 days ago

The quiet part loud... Holy fuck.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Life is cheap. Profit is the God we pray to, no matter what anyone else tells you. This goes beyond left or right and democrat or republican. It's a corporation/billionaire thing. And they're currently winning.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 6 points 5 days ago

This goes beyond American left, which is to say no left at all.

The actual left is 100% anti-corporation and anti-billionaire.

[–] renamon_silver@lemmy.wtf 10 points 5 days ago

Good job everyone.

[–] vapordays@leminal.space 11 points 5 days ago

"Basic Economics"

[–] KulunkelBoom@lemmus.org 13 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Trump wants Americans to die so Russian scum can move in.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 days ago

Why move overseas while their homeland becomes more vacant every week?

[–] thingAmaBob@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Would that actually work? I don’t know much about how well funded the Russian government is, but from the small amount of knowledge I have, it doesn’t seem as if they have much power themselves to take on another country (at least long term). They’re already using their resources for Ukraine.

This current administration is so incompetent, evil, and or delusional, that whatever plans they may have, they just won’t work out in the end long term. Unfortunately, too many people could die and many more may suffer if things get too far. Hell, even if we all suddenly mobilize today, painful sacrifices will need to be made; either direction will suck. We’ll just have to choose which “suck” we’d rather live with.