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Panel 1: Red Guy in t-shirt is sitting at a desk being interviewed. He says β€œAI is going to kill us all”

Panel 2: Interviewer looking directly into camera, says β€œWell, we’ve heard from the anti-Ai guy. Now let’s hear from the CEO of AI

Panel 3: Wide shot revealing the second interviewee looking slightly confused. He says β€œI’m the Anti-AI guy”

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 52 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The AI CEOs say shit like this as marketing. They want people to believe that

  1. Their product is very capable, so people are more likely to use it
  2. Their product is dangerous and "only they" know how to control it. They want to create regulations so that nobody else is allowed to make something "so dangerous" again.
[–] wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 24 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Also:

  1. Their product, being both capable and dangerous, is a useful thing in which governments should definitely invest heavily to smash their enemies, paying consistent subscriptions to continue to keep their "arsenal"
  2. These governments must invest even more heavily than other governments, because the AI corps want to engineer the perception of mutually-assured AI destruction, with all sides paying them for the privilege
  3. Thus that, should the bubble pop, the government contracts will get them labeled TBTF and given that sweet hundreds of billions of dollars in bailout money as a gift for crashing the economy.
[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Ordinary Things makes a pretty good argument. It's like someone giving you drugs at a party and saying something like "This shit will really fuck you up! It's crazy! Here take it!"

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 points 6 days ago

To be honest, that may have been where I first heard this lol.

[–] Emi@ani.social 60 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Then stop fucking making it. That's like building a bomb and saying it will kill us all but still building it.

[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 65 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Look, if we don’t build the torment nexus first, then China will, and then where will we be?

We must not let a death machine gap to form!

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

There's a great scene in the Fallout series, where all cogs in the business machine are trying to stop the nuclear war from happening, but they carry out their undesired duties nonetheless, the game rigged from both sides

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Long after we've eliminated nukes, capitalism, climate change, and "AI", certainty and normality will still be humanity's greatest threats.

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] yakko@feddit.uk 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Normality is behavioural inertia. Habits and habits of perception. It's what keeps everything going even though everyone with a nervous system knows that the world is run by pedophiles and psychopaths, the planet is dying, and everyone just... keeps acting normal. Even if we solved all our problems, we would still have this tendency.

Certainty, too, is a pernicious tendency of the human mind. Nobody's smart enough to hold ideas lightly, people crave certainty. They want to just believe anything that pops into their heads and kill anyone who did the same thing and dared to come up with something different. The more you know the less certain you get, and everyone's so damned ignorant. We may live in the information age but it is not a light that illumines, but a glare that blinds.

Anyway, that's my Howard Beale rant. Thanks for asking.

[–] wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

You sound like you would enjoy the book "A Canticle for Leibowitz". If you haven't read it, you should! Not because it proves your point, but because it had something to day tangential to your rant.

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 2 points 6 days ago

It's been on my radar for a while actually, good note

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

Must have missed the atomic bomb.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 8 points 6 days ago

They are in a endtime-cult.

[–] gibson@sopuli.xyz 4 points 6 days ago

People actually do that too

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

My money is on Climate Change is going to kill us.

I think AI will speed it along, I think resource wars will speed it along, I think tyranny created by single industry countries will speed it along (when a government only has to please one industry that usually damages their commitment to democracy).

...but all of those things were happening before AI. Yes AI will speed them along, aid them, maybe even be used as part of them. But really they're all a product of Capitalism and inequality. The wealthy were causing all those before AI came along to accelerate our problems.

If not AI, then the next bit coin, NFTs, tech boom, population increase, return of coal power, war with China, methane leak, Peter Thiel, Housing Crisis.

AI will kill us all? What's the new and original means by which this is proposed? Is it going to text people to death? Single handedly take everyone's jobs and refuse to give them back? Get robot scientists to poison everyone? ....and is anyone promoting that? I just don't think AI is that powerful/willful. Maybe that's as semantic as saying Capitalism is killing us, not climate change, but it really is Capitalism driving all this.

[–] Envidon@feddit.nl 8 points 6 days ago

bit coin, NFTs, tech boom, population increase, return of coal power, war with China, methane leak, Peter Thiel, Housing Crisis

We didn't start the fire music

[–] Boozilla@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 days ago

Yeah my guess is climate change, too. Mostly the 'everyone killing each other for water' part (but brought on by climate change).

[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago

Related: Jon Stewart had a fantastic segment on this.

[–] MasutaHarada@thelemmy.club 6 points 6 days ago

Just marketing doesn't explain the ongoing project of A.I, it just one part of it, the issue is in the budget pumped, allowed by financial organization like banks and government.

[–] BillyClark@piefed.social 7 points 6 days ago

People who are publicly pro-AI like Trump are simply fucking idiots in my book. Let me explain:

Reasons to be publicly pro-AI: It's an inevitable future, and you wish to seem smart by predicting the future. (Unfortunately, it's completely obvious that it's inevitable, so nobody will think you're smart at this point.) You don't want others to get there first, or you want to use AI to your own profit. (Okay, but making your opinion public isn't going to help, then. Basically, this is something that the governments will be doing in private, inevitably.) You are selling AI tech to others. (This is really the only excuse that makes any sense, but most of us aren't that person.)

Reasons to be publicly anti-AI: It's the most dangerous technology in history, so at the very least, you should slow the progress down. It's probably going to be the most economically disruptive technology in history, so you need to slow the fuck down. If you're actually pro-AI, isn't it better to be publicly anti-AI? If the tech is so good, then you'll benefit from others refusing to use it. If you're a company that makes AI today, then warning the public about AI gives you a better chance to control the market and keep new companies out with a huge barrier to entry.

Being publicly pro-AI right now basically labels you as an irrational idiot or maybe a person who sells AI tech.

[–] AstroLightz@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Whats wrong with Al? Al is a cool guy.

/j

Even from an evil capitalist perspective, what's the point of using AI to replace workers if the AI is just gonna lie to you and bunk off work? Human workers already do that, according to them.

[–] AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social 125 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (6 children)

The AI CEOs are experts at creating criti-hype.

"Our product is so dangerous that you need us to keep you safe from it"

"Our product is so capable it could outsmart every human being trying to stop it! Hey by the way, you want to replace your workers with our chatbot?"

I don't think a lot of these AI CEOs even believe it themselves. They just know that getting everyone to scream "It's so powerful it could kill us all (without us in control)" is great for making business deals with companies that want a highly capable "thinking" machine, or pitching their infinite potential future growth to investors.

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 4 points 6 days ago

Not to mention the defence contractor aspect.

[–] protist@retrofed.com 3 points 6 days ago

While the concern about tech CEOs having nefarious motives is very real, l just feel like I'm hearing increasing concern from academics with no profit or power motive. The concern mostly surrounds the reckless drive to create more advanced models with little to no attention paid to how to mitigate potential dangers.

These models are going to improve significantly over the next couple years given the current rate of advancement, and the people training these models genuinely do not understand them any more than you can understand the inner workings of someone else's mind. One of these getting loose onto the internet and potentially causing catastrophic interruptions or damage to any internet-connected system is not hard to imagine.

Our product is so dangerous that you need us to keep you safe from it

I hear similar arguments from men about men.

[–] teslekova@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago

Yep! There are, though, people who genuinely think it could destroy us all, although the replacement threat is more relevant. The beauty of it is, for the corpos, that it all works together.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 78 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They want it to be heavily regulated in a manner that allows them to move forward while preventing legal competition.

[–] AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Exactly.

"Don't you see how dangerous this is? It's time to pause new development (all new competitors in the market) of AI models so we can align our models for... safety (user engagement)!"

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's time to ban open weight models!

That's exactly the real pivot here, can't let "the public" do this work on their own.

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