this post was submitted on 21 Aug 2023
476 points (95.4% liked)

News

22896 readers
4358 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 261 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“It’s horrible for everybody. Yeah, I lost my son, it’s harder on our family, but I don’t want the rest of her life ruined too. It isn’t going to make me feel any better,” he said.

As hard as it is to say something like that... we need more people like this.

[–] Dimok@reddthat.com 8 points 1 year ago

Yeah man. I can say I would like to think I would be that forgiving of a person, but I probably wouldn't.

[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 135 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't believe I'm being held responsible for my actions!!

If this were a case of a young driver who was driving irresponsibly fast and lost control of the car, killing their friends, that would be one thing. This is a 17 year old who repeatedly threatened her boyfriend with killing him while driving in the weeks before the accident, who made no attempt to avoid/stop ramming at full speed into a large building.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 109 points 1 year ago (3 children)

During the investigation, she asked if they could just suspend her license for 10 years

“I just killed two people with a car, so I think being forced to use Uber for a decade is an appropriate sentence.”

[–] pulaskiwasright@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

Honestly, if she hadn’t threaded to kill her boyfriend with her car before this happened, then I think suspending her license for a decade or two or may be life would be the right solution. Prison shouldn’t be a punishment, but a way to keep everyone else safe from dangerous people. If she won’t drive, then she isn’t a danger. But it sounds like she’s dangerous no matter what.

[–] Puzzle_Sluts_4Ever@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Prison should not be an oubliette to put people we don't like. It should be about rehabilitation and bettering those who have commit crimes.

[–] derpo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Agreed. I wish the USA had this point of view, but instead we do view it as an oubliette to put people we dont like / are too poor

load more comments (5 replies)
[–] Wollang@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The trial featured surveillance video played in court showing the moment Shirilla accelerated towards the building without stopping, until a gut-wrenching crash is heard.

Anyone capable of doing this deserves prison time.

[–] pulaskiwasright@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

Agreed. We know she did it on purpose and is a dangerous person in general, not just a careless or even reckless driver. She needs to be in prison to keep us safe. Shes different than someone who is merely a bad driver, or even a reckless driver who just needs to be kept out of a car to keep everyone around them safe.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (7 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] golamas1999@lemmy.world 91 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Just remember Ethan Couch in 2013 diagnosed with Afluenza, A condition where someone is too rich to understand the consequences of their actions.

He was 16. He and a bunch of friends went to Walmart. They stole beer and drove drunk. He killed 4 people on the side of the road. A passenger in his car suffered brain damage and was paralyzed.

This kid was sentenced with a 10 year parole. He violated that parole by going to a party to drink. He and his mom fled to Mexico to avoid punishment. He was captured and then given a 720 day sentence in prison.

He murdered 4 people and paralyzed one of his friends. He got parole. Violated parole. Fled the country. And then was given 2 years in prison.

[–] Shush@reddthat.com 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is how you know that being rich sets you up for life. It doesn't matter what they'll do - it'll end up a slap on the wrist at best. The system is unjust and corrupt.

[–] Anoncow@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Reading the article, the driver seems to have purposely accelerated into the building with the intention to kill her boyfriend.

Both are shitty but I would think this is worse

load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The Ohio teenager dubbed "hell on wheels" — who was convicted of intentionally crashing her car at 100 mph into a building, killing her boyfriend and his friend — was sentenced to two concurrent 15 years to life sentences Monday.

Judge Russo shared blistering remarks and condemned Shirilla's actions saying: “She had a mission, and she executed it with precision. The mission was death.”

Judge Russo said in handing down her verdict remarks that Shirilla was “literal hell on wheels,” saying she intentionally drove at an hour when not many witnesses would be around, on a path she didn't routinely use but had visited days before.

Prosecutors argued in the trial that Shirilla had become turbulent and threatening towards her boyfriend and crashed to end their relationship.

[–] bioemerl@kbin.social 57 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Misleading as hell titles for this running around. I thought she was just driving fast based on what I saw in the headlines last week. She totally deserves the murder charges.

load more comments (7 replies)
[–] Guntrigger@feddit.ch 44 points 1 year ago (11 children)

A haiku about this comment section:

Healthy mind? Minor? We don't rehabilitate In the USA

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Look I'm all for rehabilitation, but she's 19 currently, which places her at 16-17 for the murder, without doing more research. By all means, she should receive psychiatric care and rehabilitation should be attempted, but we shouldn't have our hopes up. And while that's going on, she must be kept imprisoned -- mercy should not come at the expense of the innocence. Someone who makes a threat and then consciously speeds up to kill someone with a car is dangerous to society.

Something else I've come to learn is that unfortunately, punishment is necessary. Someone who's prone to angry outbursts of racism and hate needs to understand that it's absolutely unacceptable and they need to change. If you keep giving them a slap on the wrist each time, they won't take it seriously, as compassionate as you are and as much as you try to convince them to change their ways.

[–] Okkai@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

You're correct. She was 17 when this occurred

load more comments (10 replies)
[–] Otakulad@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am absolutely floored that she survived too. Was she the only one wearing a seatbelt?

[–] Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah, must be her thick skull

[–] citycat@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

you’d think so, but the real secret: no brain to damage

[–] pwnstar@sopuli.xyz 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

It took police 45 minutes to get to the scene of the crash... fucking what?

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] WheeGeetheCat@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Was she trying to kill herself too or what? How did she survive when they both died at the scene?

[–] visak@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Luck, car engineering, and medical science. She was seriously injured. Was she trying to kill herself, I have no idea. Clearly needs mental health treatment which she's not likely to get in prison. Not that I think she should be free either.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Dimok@reddthat.com 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Hey so kind of off topic, but did anyone else read this and think this might be a problem? - "Police arrived to the scene around 45 minutes later."

[–] hypelightfly@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

By itself? No.

It does not say "Police arrived 45 minutes after it was reported". From that statement alone we have no idea how long between the crash and someone seeing it and reporting.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How is she eligible for release if she’s found guilty of two murders? Or 15 years rather than something like 40? Murder is one of the few things I think should carry a punitive sentence rather than rehab.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Don't think people can ever change, eh?

A punitive system does not a good society make.

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] Iteria@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I imagine it's her age. She wasn't even legally an adult, not that that excuses it. Losing all her 20s and most of her 30s basically means if she does get out at exactly 15 years she's probably much screwed her whole life even setting aside the felony on her record. Her life will look nothing like she imagined.

[–] Angry_Maple@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago

That's even ignoring what being in prison for that long will do to you mentally. From what I've heard, it's almost a whole other world in there.

I can't imagine getting out after spending 15 years of my life in prison, and being able to keep the same quirks and mannerisms. Everything is just different. It's tough for fully grown adults to transition through, let alone someone who spent the last half of their teens.

That being said, neither of those two dead people will ever get to see a sunrise again. They'll never get to feel the wind on their face, or tell their parents that they love them. For what?

Intentionally murdering innocent people is despicable and soulless. I hope that they give her a lot of therapy and mental help in there. What a tragic end for such young lives.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] STUPIDVIPGUY@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It has been statistically proven that white women get easier sentences than men of any race. Her age also probably played in to that.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Seriously glad she is off the streets, that girl is psycho.

[–] MsPenguinette@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hadn't heard of this case before but damn, when a judge gives you concurrent cause they think you're the type of person to get time added onto your sentence is damming af

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

The sentence was 15 years to life, implying that in order for her to get out she will need to be paroled. She won't get out automatically. The judge's statements are on the record now so it is very unlikely, even if she is a model prisoner, that they will grant her parole in 15 years. Probably more like 20-25.

I feel for the father of the boyfriend. While clearly grieving for his son, he made a statement that he didn't want her in jail for life, because it's not like it would fix anything.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ohio-teen-100-mph-crash-father-boyfriend-life-prison-rcna100635

load more comments (9 replies)
[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Concurrent = at the same time

Consecutive = one after another

Concurrent is almost always the better deal.

load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments
view more: next ›