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A hidden consequence of the gig economy is that workers keep asking customers for sex or dates::"People have the right to order a pizza ... without then being asked for sex or a date."

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[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 126 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"People have the right to order a pizza … without then being asked for sex or a date.”

I've seen plenty of documentary footage showing that arriving with a pizza often ends in an invitation to personally deliver the sausage.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago

The sausage is always whole though. And awkwardly placed vertically on the pizza.

[–] MoonManKipper@lemmy.world 81 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’m confident it’s not 1 in 3 customers, rather “most customers who are also young women”. You should be able to order a pizza without being hit on, especially as they now have your contact details

[–] radix@lemm.ee 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Considering it's limited in scope to Brits between the ages of 18 and 34, one in three is actually conservative seeing as it's less than the half of the population you would expect to be women by default.

[–] Spuddaccino@reddthat.com 9 points 1 year ago

That makes sense to me.

Everyone has a type, even sleazeballs that hit on people they're delivering food to. They're bound to find some women that don't appeal to them.

[–] LifeInOregon@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You should also be able to deliver a pizza without being hit on. I’m a dad side-hustling to take care of my family. I don’t need women answering the door topless and making “do I get extra sausage” jokes. And I also don’t need old ladies hitting on me when I bring their heavy groceries to the door for a Safeway delivery.

Whether someone is the deliverer or the deliveree, just get the transaction done and move on with your day. No harassment needed.

[–] MoonManKipper@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Agreed - though does the topless thing happen a lot in Oregon? Just asking for a friend

[–] LifeInOregon@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

90% of my deliveries are “leave at door”. 5-6% of the “hand it to me” orders are normal and friendly encounters. The other “hand it to me” orders are always weirdos. “Want some weed”, “come in and drink with us”, topless women (who are usually drunk or high themselves), hoarder houses with cats spilling out the door… It’s not weekly, but it’s more than once a month that someone comes to the door in less than a fully clothed state.

[–] MoonManKipper@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Thank you for the perspective - I’d never have guessed.

[–] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If I wanted to put on pants I wouldn't have ordered delivery.

[–] LifeInOregon@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

It’s cool. Just ask me to leave it at the door. Everyone is entitled to Donald Duck it in their own home.

[–] wahming@monyet.cc 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Would it be any different with normal delivery drivers? The issue here is lack of reporting or enforcement. There are good reasons to bash the gig economy, but this one's just riding the wave for the clicks

[–] SgtSilverLining@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If an employee delivering pizza harassed me, they would be fired. They couldn't be hired at that same pizza place again - they'd have a blacklisted ssn.

If a gig work worker harassed me, they could easily resign up using someone else's info. In fact, that's a common method for harassing women - they sign up with a fake woman's profile so you let your guard down.

[–] wahming@monyet.cc 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't that pretty much the definition of lack of enforcement? Any customer could report if the driver is using a different ID, then it's up to the platform to kill the account.

[–] FMT99@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

That's one of the big issues with all these Gig companies. There's little to no oversight. They offload as much responsibility as they can by lying that "this is not really our employee but a self-employed contractor"

[–] MonkeyKhan@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

There doesn't seem to be any data that they based this conclusion on, but I certainly find it somewhat plausible. High turnover and a disconnect between employer and employee may drive the lack of reporting and enforcement you point out. It may also reduce the perceived risk, like your colleagues finding out you are a creep, or being fired.

[–] blacklizardplanet@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Leave it at the door is the default option for all my services I use. Have literally never spoken to the a gig worker before, during or after delivering something for me.

[–] Lexam@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 year ago

I love the "leave it at the door" option. But you can't do that with an uber.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

What is “asking for sex?” I know it sounds dumb but is this a thing people really do? How do they say it? “Hey any chance I could have some sex?” “Spare any sex?” “Here’s your food want to fuck?”

And does anyone ever say yes????

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago

Just a crumb of pussy m'lady.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"Oh dear! I seem to have misplaced my wallet. Is there... Some other way I could pay?"

Only it's a weird and creepy (possibly ugly even) dude saying it to a young woman who just wants to pay her rent and is delivering for DoorDash on the side.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Clearly. Humans only do things that work.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Humans only do things that work.

If only.

[–] whispering_depths@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

if you're a girl, you'll get freaks approach you eventually if you see enough people who will passively say awful things to you, ask for sex, get stalked,etc

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I’m a man so I have no idea. But I have heard some stories. It must be gross.

What words do people use to “ask for sex?” I have some idea what flirting is. I have some idea what hitting on someone is. I don’t know what it actually looks like to “ask for sex.”

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This happens anywhere and everywhere anyway. You will not quench the thurst

[–] thurstylark@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

THIS IS CORRECT. I CANNOT BE QUENCHED.

[–] unreachable@lemmy.my.id 14 points 1 year ago

a wild fucking thurst appears

[–] StickyLavander@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

User name checks out

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 8 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Almost 1 in 3 Brits between 18 and 34 years old have received unwanted contact from delivery drivers or other workers asking them out on dates or for sex, the UK's data watchdog has warned.

"People have the right to order a pizza, or give their email for a receipt, or have shopping delivered, without then being asked for sex or a date a little while later," said Emily Keaney, a deputy commissioner at the ICO.

In June, a female Etihad Airways passenger told The Guardian how she felt unsafe after a worker contracted by the airline found her phone number in the company system then sent her unsolicited text messages.

A growing number of firms, particularly in delivery, transport, or logistics, rely on gig economy or contract workers.

Its survey found that two-thirds of the UK public believe it isn't morally right to use personal details given for business purposes for romantic or sexual propositions.

The regulator said it's cracking down on such occurrences, asking victims to come forward, and reaching out to companies to remind them of their data protection responsibilities.


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[–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This has nothing to do with "gig economy"

[–] Puzzle_Sluts_4Ever@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It doesn't help.

Most companies tend to have a "don't hit on the customers" rule and people can generally learn and share which don't.

But. Once again, untrained and unregulated pseudo employees don't have that training and can pick orders that are likely to be who they are stalking

[–] joe@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Are you saying that traditional food delivery drivers get trained specifically not to hit on people when they deliver food? I don't have any data but I feel like that's not really a thing. Maybe my concept of the training a good delivery driver gets is way off the mark?

I'm also pretty sure that it's easier to give a bad review that others will see via one of these food delivery apps than it is if you go directly to the business.

I think we all agree that this is inappropriate and should not be happening, I just don't see how it doesn't apply at least equally to traditional delivery drivers.

[–] BottleOfAlkahest@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the issue may have been less prevelant with traditional delivery drivers because there was less delivery going on before delivery apps took off. You're also making the assumption that anything is done about gig workers someone complains about or gives a low rating too, it seems unlikely that these apps are doing background checks and other things traditional delivery drivers may have been subjected too.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

There were no background checks at any of the pizza places I delivered for. Two of them didn't even have interviews.

For one of them my buddy's starter died while we were picking up pizza and the driver helped out by giving us a ride home and mentioned he was looking for someone to cover for him while he was on vacation and I offered, then just had to show up the first day of his vacation.

For the other one, I had asked if they were looking for a driver, they had said no but then later that week one of the drivers shows up at my door to ask if I still wanted the job (I was a regular so he knew where I lived). Once again, I just showed up the first day and started delivering.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don’t have any data but I feel like

Ah, internet, never change

[–] joe@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Hey, I was up front about my data (or lack thereof) and we're not talking about climate change or string theory, we're talking about fast food delivery driver's onboarding.

"The Internet" would just state it like a fact.

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[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the last thing anyone wants is some broke ass gig worker hitting on them.

[–] Madex@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Not just sitting on them for text pests, have you experienced their scooter riding lately. I nearly clapped one today cutting in front of me on a roundabout...