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This toggle is annoying because what was once 1 press to turn on BT is now 2. It gets me every day.

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[–] kzhe@lemmy.zip 68 points 8 months ago (6 children)

I have the opposite. I have never a reason to turn off Bluetooth, but always want to connect of disconnect devices. this is so much better than long pressing.

[–] Album@lemmy.ca 41 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Yeah they built this UI on the assumption that people didn't turn off their BT generally. This is an improvement for me but I really don't see why they can't make it an option for people.

[–] evo@sh.itjust.works 23 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's not an assumption. They obviously have telemetry that shows the vast majority of people never turn Bluetooth or WiFi off.

[–] N4CHEM@lemmy.ml 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

...or maybe the people who turn off Bluetooth also tend to disable/block telemetry.

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[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Ummm... this also happened for WiFi as far as I can tell...

[–] Album@lemmy.ca 7 points 8 months ago

Yeah I don't turn that off generally either but you're right the wifi panel has been like this for a bit and now it's consistent.

[–] cobysev@lemmy.world 29 points 8 months ago (7 children)

My wife's car is extremely aggressive. The second she turns it on, it steals my Bluetooth connection. I could be mowing my lawn, listening to music on my phone, then suddenly hear nothing, and it's because my wife got in her car and was suddenly blasted with my tunes.

I tell my phone to forget her car's Bluetooth connection, but then I'm constantly harassed by pop-ups on my phone every minute saying her car wants to pair with my phone. I can't get it to stop pinging me. It sees a Bluetooth device in range and then spams it, trying to connect.

So yes, I like to keep my Bluetooth off until I want to use it.

[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 34 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Tell the car to forget your phone?

[–] 6daemonbag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 8 months ago

That's a temporary fix, because oop may drive that car at times as well. I have the exact same problem

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 18 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Have a dig through the cars Bluetooth settings and see if you can delete the pairing from that end.

[–] cobysev@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I've done that, but it still pings every Bluetooth connection it sees, whether it recognizes it or not.

Her car had some class-action lawsuit recently because its integrated satellite radio service was constantly pinging for a connection, whether you had the service or not. If the car wasn't driven in a few days, the battery would be completely drained. And you couldn't jump it yourself; it had to be towed to a shop so they could use some special machine to jump and charge it.

That issue has been settled, but now its Bluetooth is basically doing the same thing. Fortunately only while the car is on, but still.

[–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Sounds like you need to give it something to connect to. Buy a cheap analog-to Bluetooth transmitter, charge it from the car and just never turn it off. You'd need to do some research to find one which doesn't go to sleep. If you need to use your phone in the car, just turn the transmitter off.

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 6 points 8 months ago

Hmm. Well that sucks.

Personally; I refuse to connect a phone to a car via Bluetooth. Too many reports of cars harvesting every available bit of info it can access from the connection and storing/uploading it inaccessible/immovable to the owner.

Aux cable, fm transmitter, or deal with the radio.

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[–] woodenskewer@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I turn it off daily. I have 2 phones and I don't want to connect my personal phone to my BT speaker at work. I can see where you're coming from though.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I don't want to connect my personal phone to my BT speaker at work

I'm confused, do you shuttle the same speaker between work and home or is work a separate speaker? If it's a separate speaker why don't you just delete it's pairing from your personal phone?

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[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Supermarkets and malls etc, use Bluetooth beacons to track, and profile you. I'm always turning mine off, when in those kind of places.

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[–] asciimage@sh.itjust.works 42 points 8 months ago (4 children)

I like the way Nothing OS does it. Tapping the icon toggles Bluetooth on/off, and tapping the text/rest of the button opens the popup.

[–] DNOS@lemmy.ml 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The fuck.... now i understand why the hell sometimes it opens me that annoying window ... It works the same on miui

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[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 12 points 8 months ago (8 children)

But the wifi button still pisses me off. I want my separate LTE data toggle back.

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[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The way it works right now on my phone is you tap it to turn it on and off and then you long hold to open the setting.

I'm going to be peeved if that goes away in favor of OPs process...

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[–] macattack@lemmy.world 39 points 8 months ago (12 children)

I don't want to go conspiracy theory, but in my opinion it feels like a dark pattern to increase the time people have Bluetooth on. I believe they did the same thing with success for Wi-Fi. If I recall correctly, even when you are not connected to a device, Google can estimate your location based on what Wi-Fi networks you are in proximity to and something to varying degrees might work for Bluetooth as well which is why they also roll the feature over to the Bluetooth toggle

[–] machinin@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, this is definitely it. This article is from 2019, so it has probably evolved a lot since then.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/06/14/opinion/bluetooth-wireless-tracking-privacy.html

In addition to the profits from earphones, this is probably another reason for the removal of the headphone jack.

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[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago (8 children)
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[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 30 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I was just grumbling about this today. It's one of those little changes that might help someone, but interrupts a flow that worked well for me.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 8 months ago

Same. I was sure it's me doing something wrong.
But I don't even like those larger icons. I want the smaller circles like before.

[–] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 22 points 8 months ago (6 children)

Can we talk about how space inefficient the UI is? It takes up the entire screen to essentially show 6 buttons. And I bet like the Internet toggle that it moves the buttons around when it detects new networks

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[–] WereCat@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I prefer this. I've been annoyed by having to go to the settings every time I wanted to swap device I want to connect to. I rarely turn off BT anyways.

[–] Tier1BuildABear@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Before it was a single tap to turn Bluetooth on/off, and a tap+hold to open the Bluetooth settings (or any quick setting tile in your notification tray). Maybe you just didn't know about that feature but the old way was 100% better.

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[–] glimse@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

I miss the 6 small buttons

[–] lorkano@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Going through the comments, I think it's clear to conclude this should be a choice to configure this tile. Some people prefer single tap to turn off, some don't

[–] Sunny@slrpnk.net 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I honestly thought this was my own doing and was about to go insane when I couldn't find the setting to revert this. Why on earth would they do this.......

[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 11 points 8 months ago

I've felt this a lot over the years. Regressions in interface designs happen here and there, and I feel it's just people justifying their jobs. We have to change this, and that, and EVERYTHING, to keep it fresh. Where in reality, sometimes only some things need changing.

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[–] VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (8 children)

What version are you on? 15? I'm on 14, and for me it's as it ever was. Also, can you replace it by editing the Shortcuts? I was able to replace the Internet thingy with separate toggles for Mobile Data/WiFi by doing that.

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[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

Fuck this noise! Hate it.

[–] bitwolf@lemmy.one 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

And then they don't toggle where you want to toggle (a connect / disconnect on each device) so you have to tap and guess or open settings anyway

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (7 children)

?

Does it not turn on Bluetooth before opening that menu?

It does for me.

Bluetooth on: single tap turns it off.

Bluetooth off: single tap turns it on and opens that menu so you can select a device to connect to. (it still connects to the last connected device automatically) From there tapping back or tapping beside it closes it.

Been that way for several years now. (Samsung A54, and A52 prior to this one)

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[–] jbk@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 8 months ago

Fuck Google's recent changes to the quick settings panel, really. Especially now that One UI 6 didn't revert those changes like it was done with One UI 5.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 7 points 8 months ago (3 children)

It follows the pattern for WiFi/Internet.

[–] Tower@lemm.ee 8 points 8 months ago

Which was also a terrible change.

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