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[–] Xeelee@kbin.social 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Linux has a huge market share in servers. Most phones use a derivative of Linux. A lot of embedded systems run Linux. The desktop PC is basically the only niche where Linux doesn't dominate.

[–] exohuman@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Let’s not forget, this is in the slowly vanishing desktop market. Linux is already in every Android phone and powers most of the web too. We are all dependent on Linux every day even if it’s not on the desktop.

The way Linux is crippled in Android is a perversion of how free software should be used. Your Android phone runs Linux, wow, is your freedom respected?

Thanks to this perversion, Linux also powers killing drones, weapons of mass distruction, and all the evil things this world has to offer.

[–] tensorpudding@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

This reported 3% is thanks to uncountable coder-hours devoted by crowds of volunteers, and employees at many companies, notably but not at all limited to Canonical, Red Hat and Collabora, and put into developing massive, explicitly Linux-on-desktop software packages like the KDE and GNOME projects, Wayland, X.org, freedesktop, Cinnamon, Budgie, Xfce, (many more that I can't think of or list here), and the numerous distro developers and maintainers at Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, SUSE, Arch, etc. who put effort into packaging and keeping fresh these softwares for end-users to download for (mostly) free, competing against for-profit operating system desktops from Microsoft and Apple that have significant advantages in OEM bundling and testing, marketing, system incompatibility both intentional and inadvertent.

That so many people put so much effort over multiple decades into producing a range of products that earn many of them no profit whatsoever and which has barely made a dent in the marketplace it competes, for over two decades, is a testament to optimism about the human spirit, ideology, stubbornness, and the kind of pride and satisfaction of a service rendered for public consumption that is almost alien to modern capitalism.

[–] BarterClub@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

How much of this is steamdeck?

[–] nous@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Probably nearer 0%. These stats are from browser user agents on select sites. The chances that large amount of people are visiting these on their steam deck will likely not be very high. And there is only like 0.5% of people using the steamdeck on steam ATM.

The Steam Hardware Survey puts Linux at 1.44% (though gaming is heavily skewed towards windows users). And 0.57% using the AMD VANGOGH graphics card (which is apparently what the steam deck uses).

[–] msage@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

I use Deck to stream movies to TV, from Firefox

[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m going with a lot.

My Steam deck is my primary computer these days. I dock it and and use it with a keyboard and mouse when I’m not gaming.

[–] itsJoelleScott@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I never considered to do that. Do you stick to the stock OS or do you use another?

[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Stock OS. The only thing that has bothered me so far is that I can’t use voice chat in Counter-Strike: Source because it instantly crashes the game and I can’t find a solution anywhere online for it.

What good is a 2000s online shooter if you can’t tell your enemies that their mom is gay?

For real though. It does everything I want it to do.

[–] itsJoelleScott@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Cheers, thank you.

To our lesbian mothers.

[–] Mauserr@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] phi1997@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Definitely less. IIRC it's about 40% of Linux gaming

[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’m going with a lot.

My Steam deck is my primary computer these days. I dock it and and use it with a keyboard and mouse when I’m not gaming.

[–] spez@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

doesn't stat counter use web data? I don't think many people browse the internet with their steamdecks but I guess it would be the majority.

[–] itsJoelleScott@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I never considered to do that. Do you stick to the stock OS or do you use another?

[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Stock OS. The only thing that has bothered me so far is that I can’t use voice chat in Counter-Strike: Source because it instantly crashes the game and I can’t find a solution anywhere online for it.

What good is a 2000s online shooter if you can’t tell your enemies that their mom is gay?

For real though. It does everything I want it to do.

[–] itsJoelleScott@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Cheers, thank you.

To our lesbian mothers.

[–] Ibaudia@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

By this logic, Linux will have 100% market share in 1000 years. Can't wait!

[–] philm@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago

But if it's a steeply exponential function with a lot of noise in the history... it could be even this year!

Is this maybe finally the year of the linux desktop!!?

[–] subash@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

can't wait for it to happen

[–] sadreality@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Metaright@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

We did it Feddies!

[–] Blackthorn@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've been hearing "This is the year of Linux on desktop" since at least 2002...

[–] tram1@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

1%/10 years

>=50% to be "your year"

2493 will be the year of the Linux desktop!

Edit: The edit WAS NOT a math error :P I had to escape the ">"

[–] Blackthorn@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

I'll remember to celebrate that :D

[–] AnonTwo@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is there something in particular that makes 3% big?

[–] lasagna@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a very big market. For example, Firefox has around the same market share in browsers.

[–] Juujian@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Let's admit it, it's a pity celebration. I think the only thing that's special about it is that Linux has never crossed the 3% threshold before, whereas 2% was an on and off thing? Disclaimer, I did not do my research and I'm relying on very vague memories of those numbers.

[–] joolez@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] cantsurf@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] tensorpudding@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

This reported 3% is thanks to uncountable coder-hours devoted by crowds of volunteers, and employees at many companies, notably but not at all limited to Canonical, Red Hat and Collabora, and put into developing massive, explicitly Linux-on-desktop software packages like the KDE and GNOME projects, Wayland, X.org, freedesktop, Cinnamon, Budgie, Xfce, (many more that I can't think of or list here), and the numerous distro developers and maintainers at Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, SUSE, Arch, etc. who put effort into packaging and keeping fresh these softwares for end-users to download for (mostly) free, competing against for-profit operating system desktops from Microsoft and Apple that have significant advantages in OEM bundling and testing, marketing, system incompatibility both intentional and inadvertent.

That so many people put so much effort over multiple decades into producing a range of products that earn many of them no profit whatsoever and which has barely made a dent in the marketplace it competes, for over two decades, is a testament to optimism about the human spirit, ideology, stubbornness, and the kind of pride and satisfaction of a service rendered for public consumption that is almost alien to modern capitalism.

[–] frog@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

As someone who has FINALLY made the switch to contribute to that (all it took was several whole days of the summer devoted to constructing a Void environment from scratch to host VMs with GPU sharing), I gotta say the SteamDeck must be putting up gooood numbers, cause there's no way enough people full-time switched.

From my understanding, statcounter gets this data from web analytics. Does this mean the data is more or less legit? I don't know if Steam Deck users browse internet much, though I doubt this device's market share is large enough to affect the statistics.

[–] lasagna@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

What's that as a hard number and how does it account for dual users?

[–] Ibaudia@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

By this logic, Linux will have 100% market share in 1000 years. Can't wait!

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