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[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 21 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Good.

Judges should not be the first line against mental illness.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago

Judges should not be the first line against mental illness.

That would actually be an improvement over the current situation where the first line is just a jail cell with an indefinite stay

About 400 people deemed mentally incompetent to stand trial are sitting in Colorado jail cells this week waiting for a bed in a state mental health hospital, some of them for longer than a year and many for misdemeanor offenses.

It’s a “human rights crisis” and an endless, expensive cycle that state lawmakers are trying to stop. Legislation that passed its first hearing 11-0 on Tuesday at the state Capitol would divert people accused of low-level crimes into mental health treatment instead of requiring them to be “restored to competency,” a process for which the waitlist is months long.

Eventually, it definitely would be nice if these people didn't have to be run through the criminal justice system at all to get the treatment they need, but this is what generations of lawmakers who only ever wanted to do domestic spending for cops has left us with

[–] protist@mander.xyz 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Judges should be involved, but involved in civil psych holds, not criminal charges. A judge being involved means the person being held has an opportunity to tell that judge why they don't require psych treatment, and the doc holding them must explain their rationale in court filings. The courts definitely need to remain involved in that system, otherwise people's due process would be violated.

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yes.

However a judge should not be the first line.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 1 points 7 months ago

No, but these are people who were arrested for various criminal charges and who were already found not competent to stand trial. Either way, I'd bet an overwhelming majority of them would require involuntary treatment, even if they had no criminal charges. Point being, a judge isn't the front line of mental health response, but it will be for individuals who need treatment but are refusing.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

That’s what we said in the 80’s when Reagan first fucked it up horribly.

Goddamn that was forty years ago

lack of universal healthcare.

they pushed all the mentally ill into the streets back in the 70s/80s so they could save a buck on healthcare. then ramped up spending on cops and jails so they could move this population into something more profitable.

your politicians did this to you on purpose.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That would be the compassionate thing. This is America. We don't do the compassionate thing.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

To the downvoter: make your case for USA’s compassion. You can’t, coward.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

I'm guessing it's the opposite. I'm guessing they think those people deserve their treatment and compassion is bad. Probably an Ayn Rand fan.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 4 points 7 months ago

400 is honestly not many, I'm confident Colorado can figure this out. I live in Texas, where this number is in the thousands and our government doesn't care even a little about it

[–] Altomes@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

400 feels laughably low.