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This question popped into my head after an ADHD moment of deconstructing the concept that humans willingly drink cow milk on an industrial scale. Would you drink milk if it was human women pumping the milk themselves?

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[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 67 points 7 months ago (2 children)

You can buy breast milk in America.

I would rather get it straight from the jugs instead of out of a jug.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 22 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I'm ngl I completely forgot milk banks existed but I was also meaning as more of a regular item in the dairy section of whatever grocer you frequent

[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 46 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Wow, look at the milk banks on her

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[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Imagine being like "hey I saw Mary today, got her milk to make a cake for tonight, it's always a great one"

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[–] Plopp@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I'm picturing women in every work kitchen with their tits out and some tap-like contraption attached to each breast, just sitting there idling next to the coffee machine.

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[–] davidgro@lemmy.world 66 points 7 months ago (4 children)

One thing I've heard mentioned is that the vegan restriction on animal milk is actually about consent, which humans can give (especially when paid), so human milk can be vegan. That opens up the possibility of vegan cheese, butter, etc. but as true dairy products. Seems like an untapped niche to me.

[–] spittingimage@lemmy.world 27 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The internet has taught me that human breast milk doesn't make good cheese. Something about the protein content. Either too high or not high enough.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Iirc it's not enough. Human milk is pretty lean on the spectrum of fat content.

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What if I CRISPR my tits for a better nutrient profile. Can I make money selling vegan dairy then?

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[–] Sludgehammer@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That opens up the possibility of vegan cheese, butter, etc. but as true dairy products.

There actually are vegan dairy-ish products out there. Several startups have inserted the gene for casein (the main protein in milk) into yeast. So you just harvest the casein, add a little bit of some sort of fat and sugar and you have something that's 99% the same as milk, and can be used in the same sorts of processes.

The only product that I've actually tried was some Brave Robot ice cream, which was well... ice cream.

[–] LemmyFeed@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but did the yeast consent to that?

[–] Zirconium@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

Yes they did. The ate the food and shat out lactose

[–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I believe it depends on the sub-type of Veganism. Some forms of it are more strict and don't allow for as much if any leeway.

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[–] x3i@kbin.social 31 points 7 months ago (4 children)

No, I'll keep on getting mine from the fridge at work.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago

The funniest part is that post is what started the thought process that lead to this question.

[–] Tier1BuildABear@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago

How do you milk a fridge?

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[–] mononomi@feddit.nl 31 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I would, but I also think this would turn bad as soon as this was a big commercially available thing.The people pumping would probably be exploited to the point their kids actually needing the milk would get less.

[–] Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)
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[–] bizzle@lemmy.world 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I've drank person milk from two different people. It's pretty thin and watery, but sweeter than cow's milk. On the whole I don't feel like I'm missing anything by not having more of it.

[–] Bdtrngl@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

Calling it person milk is technically correct but boy oh boy does it make me uncomfortable.

[–] lemmefixdat4u@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago

It is for sale commercially. Hella expensive! $107 for 50 ml.

https://www.innov-research.com/products/single-donor-human-breast-milk

Now you can get it from private individuals for less - a buck or two per ounce, plus overnight shipping. But there are no food safety guarantees. You have no idea who the donor is, what kind of diet they have (may be an issue if you have food or drug allergies), or their health. That's why it's not recommended by the FDA.

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago

Nah. I switched from cow milk to plant milk a couple years ago and while it wasn’t awesome at first, once I discovered oat milk my troubles were over. It’s so damn good. I don’t see how human milk would be an improvement.

[–] Cuberoot@lemmynsfw.com 13 points 7 months ago

I assumed the only reason we don't already is because of the ethical issues with subjecting human women to the practices that make bovine milk economical.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago (7 children)
[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)
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[–] MissJinx@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

Well, idk about buying but I'll start selling

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

Maybe if it had a sexy mascot or something

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (8 children)

all milk comes from breasts

edit: oh, human breasts. no, as i've heard it tastes gross.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's a fair point lol

But as far as I'm aware when referring to non human breasts we rarely use that word.

Mammary glands, udders, and nipples are the three that pop into my head when thinking about animal titties. Which I'm realizing I'm doing a little too much of recently lmao

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[–] my_hat_stinks@programming.dev 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Probably not, I don't even drink cows milk any more. Not because I'm vegan or anything like that, just purely for practical reasons. Cow milk goes off at the drop of a hat but I always manage to get through all my oat milk or almond milk without it turning.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So many issues here... Is the harvesting consensual? Are children being deprived?

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I mean I picture it like working at a factory. Clock in and start pumping. Also I picture it like certain dairy farms with how they wait for the calf to be fully weened before harvesting the rest, so children wouldn't be being deprived.

Plus if they were being deprived finding more breast milk wouldn't exactly be hard ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

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[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

I wouldn't buy it, but if that industry needs people to help with the milking part I might be available.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Having tasted breast milk as an adult: Nah. Unless I get to have it directly from the titty, it's not something I would choose to drink.

[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

Having had it straight from the source, I have to agree. The method of delivery really defines the experience. I'm not likely to buy a jug of it, but I'd pay $3.69 for a titty in my mouth.

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[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

I tasted it when my wife was pregnant. Not disgusting, but not something I'd go out of my way for.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

Nope. If you were to do something useful to it, though - like turning it into yoghurt or cheese - I might give it a try.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 8 points 7 months ago

I don't see an issue with it, aside from the fact that it would almost certainly be ridiculously expensive. It's likely more hygienic than cow or goat milk, and you know that the people doing it would be doing so at least as consensually as anyone does any labor in a capitalist society.

[–] dragontangram88@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No. It’s not good for your health, as an adult. It also tastes salty. I had to pump breast milk from myself years ago, after each of my two children were born. Not only is it a pain to pump breast milk, but it doesn’t taste very good. I sampled some of it from the medela graduated cylinders I used for storing my milk. My son was having stomach problems and my husband and I were going back and forth about the causes of it. Maybe it was the bottles, maybe they’re shaped wrong, maybe it’s the formula I’m supplementing with because I’m not able to pump as much as I would like to since I work, or maybe it was because breast milk tastes bad. Yes, that last argument was what led me to say that my breast milk was not worse than the Nutramigen formula for newborns with stomach issues. I tasted the milk and the formula. Breast milk has a saltier taste.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)
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[–] spittingimage@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Dunno. What's it taste like?

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's slightly thinner than cow milk but with a sweeter flavor. Like milk from a cereal bowl but as I said thinner.

[–] guyrocket@kbin.social 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And how do you know that, ThatWeirdGuy ?

[–] strawberry@kbin.run 5 points 7 months ago (3 children)
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