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Something that seems immediately apparent to me is that these folks are not fresh high school students. Adults used to work these jobs.
I can't even remember what jobs teenagers were supposed to have. Newspaper delivery? Ice cream bike guy? That's all I got.
teenagers as a group designation used to not be a thing. you were a child until you could do adult jobs and then you were an adult.
children would have menial jobs like coal miner, day labourer, the guy who sticks their hand into the mechanical loom when it gets stuck...
True, but not in the late 20th century when pizza by delivery was common but there was no gps
we didn't have delivery where i lived at that point, only take-away. quirks of living in a place with less than 10 people per km^2^ on average.
Bagging groceries. That job doesn't even exist anymore
Work that grocers have passed onto their customers that they used to do themselves:
Good ol shadow work.
Ikea is the greatest.
All of those used to be paid work, some even being part of the "white glove" service. Instead, we pay with our time, a finite resource.
When is comes to Ikea, what you pay in time is taken off the price, according to my experience
That's their literal business model.
In theory, yes, I agree. But make sure you properly value yourself! You only have so much time to give.
Though, that was also said about digital games instead of physical ones, that the savings get passed onto the consumer. Not a 1:1 but that one is going swimmingly right now 😅
My dude, if you can't assemble the shelf just go pay more for one that is built. No one needs to run around computing their implicit value for such a simple task.
You're missing the entire concept of what shadow work is. And why it's being pushed further and further.
I use ikea myself. I DIY'd my grid tied solar system, battery and all. I've no problem performing the labor. That's not the point here.
You're missing the entire concept of IKEA's business model.
Not really. Their business model is, let’s have the customers do the work then we can charge them less cause we’re not paying workers. Just a heads up, that’s what shadow work is.
Is the business model not attempting to offer a lower cost product by having less employees and having the customer do more labor and use their time? On a macro level, those were jobs, people's livelihoods. Now they're self checkout areas with cameras, soon to be AI. On an economic level, to make more money, does it not make sense to continually increase the price while providing a "lesser" (read as, lower employee time to sale) product/service?
Is that a good thing? It's an honest question. What is the logical endpoint if consumers aren't able to consume given that less and less work (aka trading your time/labor for currency) is available?
As the saying goes, time is money. And that's part of the poverty trap. Sure, it's cheaper to spend more of your time. But when you're already poor, you need that time because it's better spent working to survive. Paradoxically, the more money you have, the more time you have to spend planning, assembling, driving, etc to save money.
The paradox of plenty.
You are basically explaining to me how I spend my time to save money. My answer? Yup.
Same with Aldi. And you better bring your quarter and own bags.
At least it's good exercise
My dude here opening a Heathkit and being like "why the fuck did I pay less to have to assemble everything?!"
You're missing the entire concept of what shadow work is. And why it's being pushed further and further.
I use ikea myself. I DIY'd my grid tied solar system, battery and all. I've no problem performing the labor. That's not the point here.
i mean i wouldn't want another employee touching every single food item. this is also a hygiene issue.
How do you think your produce ends up in the bin in the produce section?
Do you not ever go out to eat?
seldomly. i mostly buy supermarket store stuff when i "go out to eat". i sit down with a nice pre-packaged coffee for example. is cheaper than going to a coffee shop.
It still does in my area. Not every grocery store, but the big grocery chain around here definitely does. Sometimes they even offer to take my groceries to the car for me which has surprised me.
Market Basket, Stop and Shop, and so many others still have people for this.
Hello New Englander.
Yeah even having moved from there to the US South most grocery stores still have traditional checkout lanes/humans bagging your items if you so choose.
If you didn't mow lawns, you were never a tween/teen.
How about none ? You're a teen, you just need to learn, socialize and have fun. Don't work before your an adult.
Ah, privilege. Parents had ok jobs. As soon as I needed sports equipment or wanted to go out to eat/pay for friends etc etc it was lawn mowing, paper route, construction from 6th grade.
Yeah, I dunno, I wanted to work, because I know it would give me money to go do things I wanted to do. Got my first job at 15, which was the youngest you could work in NJ, and have had consistent employment ever since. Money is, unfortunately, important.
If it's possible to earn something voluntarily is great.
Tyvm.
I delivered advertisement for a marketing agency of various local businesses.
Was the pay shit? Yes
Did I make enough money to not be a bum and make my mother pay for a gaming pc? Yes.
Lemonade stands
And they were a proper fleet who has delivered in the same areas for years, making them extremely experienced in navigating those streets.
This also led to better customer service. You had a relationship with your driver.
There's a local restaurant that still does their own delivery, and we order lunch from them each week on the same day pretty regularly. We recently moved (still in area) and he was like "Hey wait you moved!" and we had a nice lil convo, it was pleasant. I miss that.
Sort of. I did this at 16-18.
Also, one person didn't do all that, still doesn't. Phones, oven, and delivery are all separate jobs, with phones and oven overlapping during slow shifts.