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[โ€“] jtrek@startrek.website 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sure, for a generous definition of "possible". However I don't see how you get from there to "either all are, or all are not".

Like, you could at some point have said we don't understand magnetism. You couldn't from that argue that either all metals are magnetic or none are.

[โ€“] Smoogs@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

that's the thing: no one knows. No one agrees. Not even vegans. It doesn't stop them pushing out misinformation about it.

For all the facts we do actually have and agree on i could make just as many claims that there is consciousness as they claim there isn't.

Meanwhile you have anti abortion claims that life starts at conception. This makes an assumption of when consciousness starts. Still not fact.

And scientists don't want to be withheld from work on plants for the fear of ethics. (Yet they tear mice apart)They will go as far as make no effort of reference or crosscheck even on the discussion of consciousness(even shows in the above link at the bottom of the study) like they know so little they can't even begin with reference that was ever agreed upon and burry any that contradict their hubris while making an assumption on consciousness.

All three of these groups are in constant contradiction depending on comfort level of ethics around consciousness. It's like a shitty ballet around a non fact.