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[–] soupcansam21@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I vote we give Garrett MVP + DaRon Bland DPOY, no bias

[–] Papaloxs@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I don’t see how Bland can get it without his end of season overall interception numbers being record breaking. The Pick 6 record is nice but I’d ultimately want to see total interceptions in the season way up there.

[–] Grymninja@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I'm not even kidding, this is how I feel.

MVP is Lamar or Myles, (or Jason Kelce in my dreams)

OPOY: CMC

DPOY: Bland

OROY: Stroud

DROY: Witherspoon/Carter

And it seems pretty obvious

[–] Call_Em_Skippies@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (4 children)

After his pick six last night I'm worried Myles will miss another DPOY. Besides the INTs, has Bland been a shut down corner?

[–] Keeting@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Was the PFF #1 ranked CB I believe going into last night

[–] soupcansam21@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Entering the game against Washington, he'd allowed more than 50 yards just once all season. 23 catches on 41 targets, 230 yards and 1 TD (that dime from Hurts to Devonta). Funnily enough, I think he allowed a decent amount of yards vs. the Commanders. (these are the Pro Football Reference numbers)

[–] Illblood@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

He's played awful teams. I think Myles gets it if he doesn't win MVP and Stroud should get MVP if Myles doesn't.

[–] crash218579@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Yes, he's been the top rated CB in football. Been a monster by every metric.

[–] KnowThatILoveU@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Garrett isn't even the best defensive player in the league. It's Bland right now.

Getting pressures and sacks at the rate Garrett them isn't as potent as the coverage and pick-6s Bland gets. The effect Bland has on the offense is greater than Garrett's.

Sacks might not even end a drive. Pick sixes end drives and get points. The only more impactful play you could have than that is injuring the QB.

You can scheme away and behind the leagues best pass rushers and have success. If you scheme away from a CB, you're shutting down half of the field on some plays.

WRs are better and more effective than ever before. Edge USED to be the most important position on D, now its Corner. We're at a shift in the league thats been happening for the last couple years. Advanced analytics backs this up.

Also, whether you like it or not, QBs are more valuable than any other position by a mile and its not up for debate. It also doesn't matter that there isn't a clear-cut MVP in your eyes. Just because we don't have guys chasing records every year doesn't suddenly make Bland, Garret, Donald and Watt more valuable. You just want a cool story of a season so great it "almost" rises to as valuable as a QB. I hate that it's a value award too, but I won't lie to myself for narratives. Give us a most outstanding performance award or similar.

[–] ExpressionChemical58@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You might say consensus is changing on Edge being more important, but the salaries for edge rushers still are an order higher than CBs, and edges are still drafted higher more often.

[–] KnowThatILoveU@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Contract markets can take years to shift for one. Two, the flaw in that line of thinking is that obviously annual pay doesn't equate to JUST your effect on the field, there are other factors like how it's generally safer to invest in an edge guy because they can come back from injury easier, you lose a step at corner and your CAREER might be over. Same in the draft, they don't just draft edge because of its importance, they draft them because they're easier to scout and they are a WAY safer pick. I would do the same thing at the top of the draft.

[–] chaunceytoben@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Don’t bring up that all 5 pick sixes were in blowouts against horrible teams

[–] KnowThatILoveU@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Then why isn't anyone else doing it?

[–] chaunceytoben@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

The point is none of the pick-sixes even helped his team win. The picks aren't that valuable if thats case. DPOY makes more sense.