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Better metric is PFF’s turnover worthy play % (lower is better)
Tua: 3.3% (19th best in NFL)
Allen: 2.4% (6th best in NFL)
If anyone is interested, here’s the top 5 and bottom 5 among QBs that have had over 285 passing attempts (basically at least half of games started).
Five best:
Dak Prescott (1.6%)
Matt Stafford (1.9%)
Joe Burrow (2.1%)
Kenny Pickett (2.1%)
Kirk Cousins (2.3%)
Five worst:
Geno Smith (3.9%)
Josh Dobbs (4.0%)
Brock Purdy (4.1%)
Mac Jones (5.1%)
Desmond Ridder (5.6%)
KENNY PICKETT TOP 5 BABY (end my suffering)
He is really good at avoiding turnovers, and that allows us to win. He'd be an elite backup, come in, make safe throws, doesn't turn the ball over.
I mean...it's really easy to avoid turnovers when the only two places you'll throw it are behind the LOS or 10 rows into the stands.
We did want Tua to be more aggressive this seasons and, well, he is. For better or worse
From a grading POV he's having the best year of his career.
You have to wonder how much is being covered by his coaching and Hill, but at the end of the day, he's the one throwing those passes.
He's having a great year. #2 ranked QB this year so far.
Not really PFF is a joke
Should also note the most important thing is the ratio of big time throws to turnover worthy plays. Tua just about leads to league in big time throw rate at 6.4%. A 2:1 BTT/TWP ratio is elite.
Super unlucky is just the Buffalo football way
Tua has been slinging it, of course that’s going to end up with more interceptions. You’re telling me a guy who throws it enough to hit 3000 yards in week 11 has a lot of picks? Who would have guessed.
Are these free stats or need a pff sub?
Man I hate pff, but they say Kenny is good here so I'll allow it.
How do the dorks at PFF determine if it's turnover worthy maybe they're just tight window throws
I think on a case by case basis it could be muddy. For example they didn't call any of Tua's throws in that game in Germany TWP, even though I'm sure some were.
Over a season though it's fairly accurate, and a better - but still flawed - way of estimating how well QBs take care of the ball.
Most of them are pretty obvious, it’s just QBs throwing the ball to a DB that gets dropped lmao. Even if it’s subjective and not perfect, it’s way more accurate than blaming a QB for an INT that bounced off of an open WR’s hands
The latter is the classic Lamar Jackson interception
I’m actually a big believer in PFF and put more weight in system/ranking than the average redditor…
But that is sus af.
Allen out there throwing hopes and prayers on a regular basis. Hell, he should have had 2 more INTs against Denver alone. He’s a turnover-prone gun slinger and always has been.
You’re basing this all off the Broncos game where one of his picks literally went shining off Gabe Davis’ hands? Lol
Well no, it was Allen’s fault because he threw it too hard!!!!!
Yeah that comment thread on the video of it was insane
I knew Pickett was elite!
blame canada
Weird when this stat was posted last week to credit Dak, all the comments were just critiquing there stat. “How can you measure turnover worthy plays? It’s completely subjective” etc.
Purdy can’t keep getting lucky right?
purdy elite
That boy be ballin
I’m guessing there’s a correlation between big time throws and turnover worthy plays
Listen buddy I was promised Dak Pickscott
I know most of you know that last year was weird, but it feels so good when its typed out
He had a broken thumb.