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*25 year olds missing the age cutoff include SGA (+7.6), Jayson Tatum (+4.9), Trae Young (+4.4), De’Aaron Fox (+3.7), Desmond Bane (+2.6), Mitchell Robinson (+1.6), Jarrett Allen (+1.4), Michael Porter Jr. (+1.2), etc.

25 Best Players Under 25, Ordered by Net EPM (Off/Def)

  1. Tyrese Haliburton (IND): +6.4 (+8.8/-2.4)

  2. Chet Holmgren (OKC): +6.3 (+2.8/+3.4)

  3. Scottie Barnes (TOR): +4.9 (+1.7/+3.1)

  4. Anthony Edwards (MIN): +4.4 (+3.3/+1.1)

  5. Luka Doncic (DAL): +4.4 (+6.1/-1.8)

  6. Tyrese Maxey (PHI): +3.9 (+5.1/-1.2)

  7. Alperen Sengun (HOU): +3.9 (+2.8/+1.0)

  8. Jalen Suggs (ORL): +3.3 (-0.5/+3.8)

  9. Goga Bitadze (ORL): +3.2 (+0.3/+2.8)

  10. LaMelo Ball (CHA): +2.9 (+4.1/-1.2)

  11. Evan Mobley (CLE): +2.3 (-0.2/+2.5)

  12. Lonnie Walker IV (BKN): +2.1 (+2.2/-0.2)

  13. Mark Williams (CHA): +1.9 (+2.6/-0.7)

  14. Nic Claxton (BKN): +1.8 (+0.7/+1.1)

  15. Jaden Mcdaniels (MIN): +1.4 (-0.4/+1.8)

  16. Franz Wagner (ORL): +1.4 (+0.0/+1.4)

  17. Devin Vassell (SAS): +1.4 (+1.3/+0.1)

  18. Jalen Smith (IND): +1.3 (+2.0/-0.6)

  19. Zion Williamson (NOP): +1.3 (+1.6/-0.2)

  20. RJ Barrett (NYK): +1.3 (+0.9/+0.4)

  21. Isaiah Joe (OKC): +1.2 (+1.1/+0.1)

  22. Tyler Herro (MIA): +1.2 (+1.4/-0.2)

  23. Jalen Williams (OKC): +1.0 (-0.1/+1.0)

  24. Darius Garland (CLE): +0.8 (+0.5/+0.3)

  25. Jalen Johnson (ATL) : +0.8 (+0.2/+0.6)

Jalen Duren, Cam Thomas, Keegan Murray, Paolo Banchero, Victor Wembanyama, and so on followed after.

Source: https://dunksandthrees.com/epm

This is based on current production so far this season. What are some surprises on this list (or t those that didn’t make it)? What are some players in slumps/hot streaks that will go up/down or go in/out of this list?

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[–] wjbc@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Chet Holmgren (+6.3) is the best rookie I can remember in ages. And he's still only 21. And OKC also has Isaiah Joe (+1.2) and Jalen Williams (+1). Plus SGA (+7.6) just missed the cut.

And OKC has stockpiled a huge hoard of draft picks. They literally don't have enough roster spots for all those picks even if they had just started a rebuild -- but right now they are already a playoff team on the rise. What are they going to do with all those picks?

Orlando's Goga Bitadze was not on my radar despite four full seasons in the NBA, but at age 24 he seems to have made a leap and demands attention. Apparently he's been filling in for an injured Wendell Carter, Jr., and the Magic haven't missed a beat. TIL.

[–] blacknotblack@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

cuz he isn’t really a rookie? same as ben and blake.

[–] Round-Revolution-399@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

He’s not A rookie. He’s THE rookie

[–] Scelidotheriidae@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You are right, he isn’t a real rookie and is massively advantaged over rookie, but you don’t need to be so defensive about it

[–] Uncle_Freddy@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I’d thought that this debate was settled during the Simmons-Mitchell race, but I guess not. They are rookies; get over it. 

[–] syllabic@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

looks like the majority of their first rounders are in the next 2 years as well so they will have to make decisions relatively soon on what to do with them