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Worth the watch then? Looking to add some new movies to my collection
Yes, worth the watch.
Just keep expectations neutral, this one is also unique in that it focuses more on decline of society, dark movie.
It's a suspenseful movie showing miserable things. If that's your thing then it's worth the watch.
For some, myself included, it was decently cathartic.
It is Taxi Driver set in the DC universe.
Maybe for the first half, but their character development diverges at the end. Travis Bickle attempted to do something good, however misplaced, but the joker just wanted to watch the world burn.
The way I see it, Travis thinks he's doing something good, and succeeds in becoming a 'hero' purely by accident.
That's the beauty of the movie. He steps past the breaking point but his focus was on getting the girl out so all the violence is justified. But he's not perfect, otherwise his true intentions would have been completed and he'd be recognized as the monster he really is. It's all perspectives.
And how is that bad?
I'm not saying it is bad. Personally I see Taxi Driver as a better telling of that story, but Joker is also good in its own way.
For me, I thought it was one of the greatest films Iβve ever seen in my life.
I had someone tell me that, and was incredibly let down. Maybe I just didn't get it.
Thatβs fair, Iβd argue that a viewer being able to closely relate to the protagonist or a character in the film is what changes their view of the film.
For example, Iβve heard a lot of people love the Black Panther movie and the antagonist. I personally never liked the movie, nor relate to the movie at all, but I can understand someone relating to being an oppressed minority in American urban cities and the desire to rise up.
Imo its overhyped. Its an alright movie that no one would give two shits about if "The Joker" was not the focus of it
So people would have reacted differently if it was an entirely different movie?!?
I mean yeah? Hypothetically take the parts of a movie that are "unsubstantial" and just look at the plot. It is not interesting enough on its own, which is my biggest gripe. The whole message of the movie literally boils down to the "we live in a society" meme.
I bought the movie in UHD 4K DVD. I watched it one time and donated the DVD. I won't be watching it again. Worth a watch? I guess? Maybe? Do you like feeling like shit after watching a movie? Then it's definitely worth a watch. Phoenix is my favorite actor, and I think he's the most talented actor in Hollywood, but I did not enjoy watching his psychosis.