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A 14-year-old boy allegedly fatally shot his older sister in Florida after a family argument over Christmas presents, officials said Tuesday.

The teen had been out shopping on Christmas Eve with Abrielle Baldwin, his 23-year-old sister, as well as his mother, 15-year-old brother and sister's children, Pinellas County Sheriff Bob Gualtieri said during a news conference.

The teenage brothers got into an argument about who was getting more Christmas presents.

"They had this family spat about who was getting what and what money was being spent on who, and they were having this big thing going on in this store," Gualtieri said.

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[–] Ep1cFac3pa1m@lemmy.world 158 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Just as the architects of the Constitution intended

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

At 14 and 15, both of these kids are too young to legally own a pistol in Florida.

https://www.fdle.state.fl.us/FPP/FAQs2.aspx

So, yeah, pretty sure they aren't concerned with the Constitution.

[–] Ep1cFac3pa1m@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You’ve made an excellent point, just not the one you think

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That those kids got the guns illegally and would have done so regardless of what laws were in place? That point?

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

regardless of what laws were in place?

Oh come on, regardless of where you stand on the issue, you can't think of any change in law could contain that would prevent someone from getting a gun?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

FTA:

"Both teens have prior arrests for car burglaries."

Seems likely they stole the guns from cars, so maybe make it illegal to keep your gun in your car?

Hard to say until the gun origins are traced back, but they weren't legally purchased by or for the kids.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Seems likely they stole the guns from cars, so maybe make it illegal to keep your gun in your car?

Hmm, so the source of the guns were the cars that were broken into. Hmm, yes. So what law can you imagine that would have even prevented the option for those gun owners to keep guns in their cars? C'mon, you've got this. Hint: How did the car owners get the guns?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nothing that could be blocked because of the 2nd amendment. You can't prevent people from legally owning guns.

Now, if you want to get rid of the 2nd amendment, we have a process for that...

First you get 290 votes in the House, then you get 67 votes in the Senate, then you get ratification from 38 states, so all 25 Biden states +13 Trump states.

Good luck with that!

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The constitution was written by a bunch of geriatric slave owners who barely washed once a week. Every single one of the signatures on that paper comes from someone that would be considered mentally deficient in this day and age.

You shouldn't be proud of it standing in the way of sane legislation, nor the fact that gross gerrymandering keeps it that way.

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago

EXACTLY RIGHT! That's why need to outlaw Abortion, have speed limits, make fraud illegal, make murder and illegal and keep all other laws in place! Because laws DON'T WORK!