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Millennials, Gen X and Gen Z say the system needs reform, an exclusive Newsweek poll found, amid fears the benefits won’t exist when they come to retire

Younger generations in the U.S., including millennials and Gen Zers, are much more likely to believe that the Social Security system needs reforming than those in their 60s and 70s, according to a recent survey conducted by Redfield & Wilton Strategies on behalf of Newsweek.

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Some 40 percent of respondents said they believe that the Social Security program currently pays out more to retirees than it is receiving in Social Security tax payments, while 26 percent disagreed with this statement.

Gen Zers (ages 18-26), millennials (ages 27-42) and Gen Xers (ages 43-58) were more likely than boomers (59 and older) to think that Social Security should be reformed.

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[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 212 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (8 children)

This is a propaganda article. It's meant to start the idea that social security change should happen; Social Security had a surplus and was on track to support Gen Z with boomer level benefits until George W Bush drained the fund to pay for the Iraq war. A 100 billion+ surplus (which would have been 2T by 2011) was sucked dry at a billion dollars a day for a war that brought nothing but misery. This current crisis is brought to you by the Republicans.

Social Security is currently facing an uncertain future as it is expected to face a 23 percent across-the-board benefit cut in 2033, according to the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, unless something changes until then.

Some bullshit conservative think tank is trying to spin up the idea of cutting benefits to prevent taxing billionaires. Don't let the rich lie anymore. Make the rich pay!

[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 37 points 10 months ago

Man, wish we could have put that money in some sort of locked box...

[–] eek2121@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Social Security should be reformed. The surplus should be given back and laws passed that forbid touching it. Further:

  • The amount paid out should be significantly increased (after decades of working I would make less than $3,000/mo on SSDI, for example, which isn’t enough for me to live on my own even)
  • There should be no income cap for taxation purposes
  • The retirement age should be lowered to 60 and taxes/formulas modified accordingly.
  • It should not take years for anyone to make it through applying for disability.

Honestly, Social Security should also be responsible for paid sick/family leave, short term and long term temp/perm disability, unemployment, etc. We in the US could have it so much better…

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Yeah and it should be allowed to hold companies that are bailed out as long as its financial advisers choose.

Hell when it’s time for UBI this is the administration to do it

[–] Pacmanlives@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

Your forgetting Ronald Reagan was the one who started borrowing from it and saying here is an IOU

[–] nbafantest@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

There has never been a separate fund. The "money" is still there, its in IOU's.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah it’s not enough to live on. I want to be able to survive on social security when I’m old, so I’ll fight for old people to be able to survive on it now. And a little something for a surplus.

Taxes aren’t why you’re poor, shit pay is

Also social security for all is UBI, we can demand that

[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

George W Bush drained the fund to pay for the Iraq war

Not really. Bush ended Clinton's budget surplus and replaced it with a budget deficit, and I won't argue if you hold the wars responsible.

But SS is not part of the normal budget. It was running a surplus in the Bush years. There was a debate over what to do with the surplus.

Keeping it "stuffed in a mattress" would be irresponsible for the same reason most of us don't keep our life savings in a checking account. Bush wanted to invest it in the stock market, but the public rightly thought that was too risky. So it was invested in the most risk-free asset: Treasury bonds.

That means that the government could spend the surplus, but they are required to pay it back with interest. Failing to pay back SS would trigger a default, no different than crashing through the debt ceiling.

[–] tastysnacks@programming.dev 5 points 10 months ago

The Social Security Trust Fund is nearly $3T

[–] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Damn, good to know I was fucked before I was even able to vote. And here I thought me and my generation were the problem....