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[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 161 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

This guy was willing to do it for free. Imagine if there was a bounty.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 123 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

When society gets to the point where you will die if you don't do anything .... or you will die if you do something ....

Eventually people realize that they will be punished, threatened or endangered no matter what they do or don't do, some people will come to the conclusion that they would rather go down fighting.

If you're going to get screwed doing nothing, some would rather go out on a blaze of glory because they no longer have anything to lose.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 69 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I am assuming that when this guy is caught, what we will find out is that his wife had cancer and died from it and they refused to honor their claims or something like that.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 68 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Hopefully it doesn't come to that, and he just never gets caught.

If he does, it's gonna be one hell of a gofundme campaign for his defense.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Except the government will probably make GoFundMe freeze the funds for the campaign.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

It's a legal defense fund, not a bounty reward.

Granted, they'd probably still do so anyways.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh, I'm almost certain that they would primarily because they would not want him having money to fight a legal battle.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

He won't be paying for it in either case, someone will pick this up pro-bono.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 6 points 2 weeks ago

Yes and that person will be under a lot of duress to play along on a show trial.

This is a class war

[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

if this dude gets found he won't make it to trial.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's been 3 days, and the chances of them finding him go down with every day.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago

If I was him id be in the Appalachians camping by now with no internet or cell connected devices. Id just wait a month or two and move all of my shit out of new york, mind you he may not even be a New Yorker he could be Californian for all we know.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I legit think the state/oligarchy will kill him silently. Taking it to trial and giving this guy a voice could make things so much worse for them. They're afraid of creating a robin hood, and class solidarity; of giving the working class a hero and cause to rally around.

They're so close to creating a robot army that can suppress the masses. They just have to bide their time until revolution is impossible.

[–] Syrc@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

I legit think the state/oligarchy will kill him silently.

Wouldn't that backfire though?

Won’t more people start thinking “So this guy killed a really important CEO and apparently never got caught nor faced repercussions… you know what…”

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 14 points 2 weeks ago

Dealing with insurance with a nonfatal chronic illness can also be infuriating. You have to keep fighting the same battle over and over and over again.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Or perhaps himself dying of a treatable disease they refused to pay for. He'll be a hero either way, the question is how much.

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

Falling Down was in my head this week. The number of people in the US that are close to it is so high, it's barely fringe. Ironically Trump might just trigger a revolution when he tries to clamp down.

[–] DemBoSain@midwest.social 40 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 42 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Even if he did, any funds would be frozen. A Monero Address would be a better way of receiving money.

Edit: Mind you, I expect him to very soon be arrested, so he wouldn't really have any time to enjoy it.

Edit 2: Look up Jim Bell. He wrote a very popular essay in the 90s.

[–] daddy32@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Edit 2: Look up Jim Bell. He wrote a very popular essay in the 90s.

This is one of the things that scares me about most about completely anonymous currencies and networks: untraceable kill orders and, to a lesser extent, unlimited bribery (that already exists in US). Because you know, it opens the most possibilities to people with money. Like billionaires.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 weeks ago

I suspect billionaires and other people of high authority, especially, would be the first ones on the list. But your average everyday person is very unlikely to be on the list because they don't have enough people who hate them.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We need a black market gofundme so we can crowd source hits to keep up.

[–] daddy32@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

I'm not sure we would outweigh them - you know the statistics, almost half the wealth (potential kill orders) is held by top 1.1%.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 11 points 2 weeks ago

Don't get scammed but if he ever needs a legal defense fund, I think the plebs can figure it out.

He did job well, least we can do it pay respects

[–] grue@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

TBF, we don't know that. Might've been a paid hitman.

[–] TipRing@lemmy.world 48 points 2 weeks ago

The professional killer was the one who died.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 23 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

According to the media, he made a lot of very amateur mistakes if that's the case. Like leaving a water bottle and granola bar wrappers and being filmed on camera at a Starbucks.

[–] Aztechnology@lemmy.world 40 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Leaving the DNA behind doesn't really identify him if his DNA is not in the system.

But nowadays the odds some relative of yours put theirs up on some family tree site is pretty high so they could narrow the suspect pool quite a bit going that route.

[–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

His DNA doesn't need to be in any system. These days there are professionals that take DNA results and comb through the databases to find close relatives that are in the system. It's how they caught the BTK Killer.

[–] Starrifier@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I think you're thinking of the Golden State Killer (among many others). BTK was caught through digital forensics, not forensic genealogy.

[–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 34 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Has the Starbucks guy actually been confirmed as the same person? It looked like clearly a different jacket and backpack, I assumed that was either an accomplice or just an unfortunate lookalike, but I suppose he could have changed or it could just be odd lighting tricks.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 weeks ago

No, not that I'm aware of.

[–] Josey_Wales@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago

Anything sent like that would be frozen. Monero would be the better option.

[–] boogiebored@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Can we crowdfund this, and provide a crypto bounty as reward for targets, including politicians, in the same way there was a reward for information on the shooter?

This would be to let those who step out of line know how much disdain there is for any of them in particular at any given moment, and the rewards can be split as needed.

The proletariat needs alternative systems of leverage.

This is for my Purge sequel screenplay, of course. One can dream.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Bell

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago