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[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Boomers protested Vietnam. Millennials Iraq.

Kids want change. Sometimes that is for a good cause and sometimes it is about draining the swamp and hurting others.

But if you needed to be convinced that it was worth voting against a rapist fascist who hid nothing? You were never an ally.

[–] magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Its not that they need convincing to vote against it, its that they needed to be convinced their vote would even fucking do anything.

Most of us are convinced that we're dying in the climate wars before we hit middle age regardless of who we vote for, the rest where the dipshits that went out and voted for Trump.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And a rapist openly running on project 2025 would not be any "fucking" different?

[–] magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Would it make my life and the lives of millions of other Americans easier by not having a target painted on our backs for probably as long as our country stands? (We'll probably never see another election again IMO) Yeah sure, that's why I voted for Khamala.

That being said she wasn't going to do anything to meaningfully stop the horrors of late stage capitalism. Either way I'm probably going to die by middle age in the climate wars.

Its just now that they'll happen even sooner, and now I have to worry about being put in a camp because of my prescription to estrogen.

Ones certainly worse, but neither actually seemingly give me the possibility of living a full and happy life. Even if I do make it to old age I'll be living in a dying world, clinging to whatever habitable sliver of earth I'd have the privilege of finding.

Honestly until we start being friendly and share cookies with the ghouls hiding behind the funds managed by Americas institutional investment firms which collectively own everything, I don't think we'll be solving anything.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Its just now that they'll happen even sooner, and now I have to worry about being put in a camp because of my prescription to estrogen.

And that alone should have been reason enough for anyone who actually gave even the slightest of shits.

Growing up is realizing you aren't going to win. But you can lessen harm.

[–] magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yeah except that for previous generations not "winning" wasn't an inherent global existential threat.

Its hard to be motivated when you know either way you're not getting the full life you where promised. Especially when the issue at hand is someone else's problem. (From the perspective of my cis Gen Z counterparts.)

I'm not saying its the right way to operate, I'm saying its how lots of people do naturally. Its unfortunately human, and its taken advantage of by design.

Its easy to keep people preoccupied when they're a weeks pay away from starvation.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

I'm not saying its the right way to operate, I'm saying its how lots of people do naturally. Its unfortunately human, and its taken advantage of by design.

And a lot of people are selfish hateful assholes who never actually cared about the social good and only ever wanted an adventure and for themselves to get ahead.

Gen z are not unique. Again, millennials and even boomers have stood where you stand.

As for a lack of a future? Millennials aren't that much older and we are just as fucked.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah except that for previous generations not “winning” wasn’t an inherent global existential threat.

It's been that way at least ever since the invention of the atom bomb.

So, yeah a global existential threat has been there for going on 80 years. And that one is quite obvious. And climate change was in the news for over 110 years, if you can believe it.

https://theconversation.com/for-110-years-climate-change-has-been-in-the-news-are-we-finally-ready-to-listen-188646

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah sure, that’s why I voted for Khamala.

I'm starting to disbelieve you since you've misspelled her name twice and it was on signs everywhere.

[–] magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Actually that level of ignorance is pretty on par for the average American voter.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The average American voter doesn't refuse to vote because no one will end the horror of late-stage capitalism. They don't even know that's a thing. This person is talking like they are an informed voter but can't spell the name of the person they claimed to have voted for. I am doubtful.

That and I just looked at their history and they joined Lemmy 16 days ago.

[–] magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No I was taking a shot at myself for misspelling a name, that's the joke.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah, sorry, I was talking to the troll themselves. My mistake. How depressingly dull that you don't actually believe any of this and want people to think you do.

[–] magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I, er, what?

How did you pull that out of me making fun of myself for misspelling Kamala Harris' name?

Have you ever heard of reading comprehension? Jesus Christ.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I pulled that out of your 16-day-old account saying a bunch of controversial shit.

[–] capital_sniff@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Things don't work that way. It is much easier to tear something down. This election was about the old neoliberals vs. populist MAGA. There was no one playing for the progressives or democratic socialism on that field.

Now Trump and his ilk might fuck their little coup up and end up losing power in the midterms, but it'll probably be back in the direction of rule of law neoliberal politics. If you want to see your voice being heard first you need someone that will listen. If you believe in human rights and basic equality Trump and MAGA aren't it. Elon Musk will not be listening to you and doesn't give a shit about regular folks. Those tech bros are happy that opiates are available to occupy the unemployed useless masses.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"We did nothing and we're out of ideas" is not the good argument you seem to think it is.

[–] magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Oh sweety, its not that I don't have ideas, its that most of them are rule breaking. :)

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Oh sorry, "I have ideas but did nothing about them" is not the good argument you seem to think it is.