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[–] KaRunChiy@fedia.io 258 points 1 week ago (40 children)

Me and my fiancee both work full time to just barely survive each month with no savings because the CoL is so fucking high it's unmaintainable. And if you reply with "just move", first: I'm in the midwest, it's not AS bad out here, and second: Moving is a privilege, it's expensive, time consuming, and often times you end up in a worse spot than you were before

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 117 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Don’t worry. All that work you’re doing will pay off… your landlord’s fifth mortgage.

[–] KaRunChiy@fedia.io 65 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In my case I'm subleasing so I'm paying off my Landlords' Landlord's fifth mortgage

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Landlords all the way down.

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[–] infinitevalence@discuss.online 58 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You just need to put in some extra effort or get a side hustle like we did. /S elder millennial.

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[–] credo@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I can install some pull handles on your bootstraps for a small monthly subscription fee. No, you won’t own them.

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[–] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Exactly! Same boat, I am too poor to move! Due to missed payments on mortgage, credit cards, and medical bills, our credit score is abysmal. There is no way we can get a new mortgage or pass credit checks for an apartment. On top of that I don't have the time or money to invest into the house so there are many things that need to be fixed, some of these absolutely need to before selling it so I also can't just sell either. 3rd, you're right. Wherever I do end up moving (if somehow we did get approved), it's probably going to cost more due to higher interest rates, and it will most likely cost more. We are praying to make it a few more years until stupid daycare is done so we can finally make ends meet a little...

I never thought I would be in this bad of a situation in my life, but here I am and I just want to survive each day. Thinking about money every day for years now is tiring and stressful. They have a name for it, its called poverty brain.

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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 157 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Hey Gen Z, first time being gaslit by boomers? Heh, yyeeeaaaahhhhhhh.......they do that. Now imagine having them as your parent, and you're 5, and you have to just live with their bullshit.

~Sincerely, Gen X and the older millenials.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 76 points 1 week ago

"it'll all make sense when you're an adult"

well. i'm an adult now. some would even say old or middle aged. it still doesn't make sense

[–] KaRunChiy@fedia.io 32 points 1 week ago (6 children)

My parents were Gen X but they faithfully followed the boomer mindset

[–] johndroid@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I know many people in their 50s who are Boomer as fuck.

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[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 118 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My parents holding fast with "well, it's always been like that" made me realize how big this generational divide is.

There are good boomers who get it, yes. There are also some really dumb ones who have literally no clue what kind of world they helped create. Full stop.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 84 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And there are some Nazi gen z. We have to pull together the good ones from every generation and become helpers together. We can't bitch about the ones that are shit, there are shit people in every generation, so it's a waste of time and a distraction.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (11 children)

Yes, 100% this. There are plenty of boomers that got reamed by various elitist schemes, too. People right on the cusp of retirement only to have everything wiped out by something like an Enron or the real-estate bubble and they get to keep working another 10+ years...I think people have rose-colored glasses when it comes to the things boomers faced, too. It was not all sunshine and roses for everyone in that age bracket. It is lunacy to suggest that it was/is.

There may be some boomers doing nefarious things like Blackstone, driving up the cost of living for everyone, but I bet there are some very, very young people in schemes like that, too, making lots of money. Or individuals like fElon's boyz - I don't think the Dogebags are boomers. And fElon himself is Gen X....

Then there are headlines that I see like this that run counter to virtually everything you'd hear about Gen Y in recent years:

https://www.newsnationnow.com/business/your-money/millennials-financially-baby-boomers/

Lastly when the bullshit inter-generational warfare is whipped up, I remember this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HFwok9SlQQ

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[–] leadore@lemmy.world 100 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

Let's get over the idea that it's a generation war and not a class war. Thinking all boomers are rich and own houses is like thinking all gen z are lazy. Neither is true by a long shot, but this is what the oligarchs and corporations want us to think about each other so we get distracted and don't notice that they are the ones buying up all the housing so we can't and they can rent to us at whatever price they want. Let's stick together against them instead.

edit to add: And BTW don't forget the next gens are growing up in an even worse situation and will face the effects of living under an autocracy and the effects of unaddressed climate change, while you get old and boomers are gone. Who do you think they're going to blame? You, that's who, while those in power laugh at all of us.

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[–] iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com 99 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Please stop falling for efforts to divide the working class.

Amy such efforts should immediately be viewed as suspicious. The divide is not old vs young, or white vs black, or even rich vs poor. It is the capital class versus the labor class.

Boomers grew up in a very tiny slice of global history where the working class actually got improvements in their material conditions, so it is hard for them to understand the struggles of people before or after... but they are being ground down by capitalism the same as the rest of us.

Your comrades at work may not understand the importance of unions or collective action, but they are still your comrades. Your grandmother may not realize that all of her extra productivity went to make billionaires richer, but she is still your comrade.

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[–] sumguyonline@lemmy.world 76 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I personally am capable of working any boomer in their prime into exhausting while I'm still pushing for hours more. The whole "millenials are lazy" is corporate bullshit designed to make parents think their kids are just lazy and not being ripped off by the system they demand exists.

[–] sumguyonline@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Pull a 16hr shift working network engineering during an outage, then come back to work in 8hrs for another full day on a Monday, then when the boomer stops having their mental break down they can apologize in person to every millennial they talked shit about.

[–] sumguyonline@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Oh, and because you're an engineer, NO OVERTIME! YOU SALARY BITCH! THOSE HOURS ARE INCLUDED!

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[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 73 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

its not the 40 hour work week thats the issue.

Its how much productivity is demanded in that 40 hours. and the compensation for it.

and theres a LOT more productivity demanded from workers today, than there was in 1950.

Because all the technologies that were supposed to make life easier... didnt. They just increased the amount of things we can/have to do in a day.

People working today are doing more labor, producing more effort per hour than 70 years ago, but are being paid less in purchasing power for it... and if thats not a recipe for violent upheaval i dont know what is.

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[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 73 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (10 children)

I hate this idea that people need to work themselves to death to survive. We have such a surplus of resources today that people should barely have to work. I don't know what it was that pulled the mask off this farce of a system we have, but it sure as shit isn't worth it to bust my ass for 45 years so the CEO of FuCKYou Incorporated can get another bigger yacht.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 41 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We have tons of excess. The problem is it's hoarded by a small tyrannical group of psychopaths bent on increasing their wealth at the cost of everyone else.

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[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 60 points 1 week ago (11 children)

Hey throw millenials in this too please.

And GenX. I bet a lot of them feel it too unless dementia has already set in.

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[–] Slam_Eye@lemmy.ca 46 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I've gotta say i admire Zoomers a lot. Im a 1990 millenial and most of my generation simply put their heads down and pushed through and tried to emulate their boomers parents while not living their boomer parents reality, destroying themselves in the process. It seems that almost collectively your generation has said FUCK THIS SHIT and made moves to end it.

Its really impressive.

[–] Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't know about that. I'm a 1990 millennial and the vast majority of ppl my age collectively said fuck giving the extra effort for no return. I remember reading in my 20s that millennials pretty much gave up on retirement and started traveling.

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[–] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 28 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Among all my friends, there are two clear common denominators between those who rent and those who own houses. The ones renting have office jobs and live in the capital, while the ones who own houses live in smaller cities or the countryside and work in manual labor.

I’m not saying correlation is causation, but it’s an interesting observation - and so far, it applies to 100% of my friends.

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[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Well that should be easy to fix. Just have a world war with a general draft and all for about 5 years. Then another one soon after in an arbitrary place. That sort of thing really brings people together, and also kills many of them, all contributing to a healthy housing market!

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[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (38 children)

And yet Gen Z turned out for... Trump? He'll surely help the economy and enable a new era of magically plentiful high paying, stable jobs.

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[–] Coolbeanschilly@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Maybe the boomers need to stop working and die, so the better paying jobs and wealth can come to the younger generations.

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