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Scott Hall is the first person to plead guilty in the 19 defendant case. First to flip.

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[–] bloopernova@programming.dev 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I wonder how quickly the other defendants will act, and what will they do?

Will we see a domino effect of flips to guilty pleas?

[–] clearedtoland@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Turns out they’re flipping votes after all!

…or something like that. I don’t know. I tried to be witty with it but I need more coffee

I think you did well enough there

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 6 points 1 year ago

You only need 200 more mg of caffeine, and someone needs to find them!

[–] bloopernova@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

chef's kiss

Fantastic joke!

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

At a certain point, they won’t need anyone else to flip. And I can guarantee that is a big part of the DOJ’s pressure on the defendants. Because the first to flip gets the best treatment, then every flip after that is able to offer less and less “new” info. And at a certain point, they’ll just stop offering deals altogether, because their case is already tight enough.

Like getting one person to squeal is great. The next two or three are good. After that, it’s just unnecessary because you already have what you need. So it’s a sort of Prisoner’s Dilemma, where each subsequent person is helped less and less by squealing. And at a certain point, squealing just won’t help you at all, or may even hurt your defense if they’ve stopped offering deals and your testimony incriminates you.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, but this guy probably never even talked to Trump. He doesn't have a lot of useful information compared to someone like Mark Meadows. Hopefully it'll encourage the others to flip.

[–] nukeworker10@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But he probably did talk to Powell, who talked to Trump. Powell is batshit crazy, but she might be smart enough to know that flipping on Trump might save her.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Powell is batshit. I don't even know if she'd be used as a witness if she did flip.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Plot twist - Trump asks for a plea deal.

[–] markr@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If it includes being barred from running for or holding any federal or state office for the rest of his life, I’m fine with that.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

I empathize, but this fucker really needs to go to jail or others will try the same.

Do I think he will go to jail? I'm skeptical. But this is what needs to happen.

[–] Tigbitties@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Ideally, yes. Unfortunately these dudes are slippery fucks.