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Wisconsin resident Bradley Bartell voted for Trump's promise to crack down on "criminal illegal immigrants," but now his Peruvian wife Camila Muñoz has been detained by ICE.

Muñoz, from Peru, overstayed her visa but had applied for legal residency. On their way home from a honeymoon, immigration agents detained her at a Puerto Rico airport.

Despite no criminal record, she remains in a Louisiana detention center. Her case reflects ICE’s broadened enforcement that now includes documented immigrants.

Bartell, once supportive of stricter immigration policies, now questions the impact on families like his own.

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[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 129 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Hold the fuck up, she was already OVERSTAYING her Visa and these idiots thought it was a good idea to TRAVEL? Nah they both got what they fucking deserved. It doesn't matter that you're awaiting your residency application, you have already passed your exit date, why the fuck would you be traveling for your honeymoon

Edit: I'm literally standing in the airport awaiting my fiance's return from Mexico right now, this shit makes all the people who actually read their paperwork and follow the rules, look bad when they get lumped in with these idiots.

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Being in an international relationship, I'm sure you understand how tricky and stressful some of these paperwork matters can be. Just deciding what type of visa to apply for when you are in a relationship can be taxing.

You are right that for the majority of people, the bureaucracy works as long as you file things correctly. They should have done it right from the start. But there are a lot of personal situations that can complicate it.

As an aside, it is mind boggling to me the number of immigrants who wholeheartedly support Trump, even with family ties that are endangered by his actions.

[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Warning, essay.

Many many reasons for the immigrants who support him all of them bad reasons obviously.

-White-Passing Hispanics, especially CDMX, Monterey within Mexico and outside, Argentina, Colombia, Brazil (obv. not the darker skinned Brazilians) etc. that can be seen by whites as "the good ones", and by the Hispanics themselves. These people, the ones who make a point to embrace the "whiteness" of their bloodline, allowing them to identify more with their European colonizers rather than the darker skinned natives, or even Mestizos (mixed race, though at this point most people are decedents of decedents of decedents of the original Mestizos). Their tie to that European "whiteness" somehow makes them better than those darker than themselves.

-Machismo culture being deeply ingrained in many families causing them to "admire" a "strong" man. Not a single macho man is actually macho (except for Macho Man) under Machismo, it is a warped idea of what constitutes macho that idolizes the men and puts them up front as the default lead of any situation especially family just because they are male.

-There is unfortunately, a STRONG sense of "I got mine" or pulling the ladder up behind you among many many immigrants, Hispanic or otherwise. This goes along with the sense of "well we did it so it can't be that hard", they fail to realize that yes, it may have been easy for you but for others it is not.

-Last I can think of, the kids and grand-kids of immigrants. Many did not get taught about the struggles of their ancestors, or were taught and don't care, sometimes you just get a bad egg kids who doesn't give a shit about his heritage. Sometimes this comes from their feeling like an "other" when living in an area with a Hispanic minority. This can cause them to seek out belonging and feel resentment to their ancestors and heritage for bringing them there, for making them into a minority and grow some unhealthy selfhate, and then falling in with like minds who also hate the "others" making them into "one of the good ones." (ive types this term too many times today)

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Their tie to that European “whiteness” somehow makes them better than those darker than themselves.

Yeah, this is the whole point of "racial" categories in USA: "hispanic", "latino", "white latino", etc. It's all about preserving bullshit race "science" and eurocenticism in service to white supremacy.

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 43 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Apparently she got stuck in the States when all the borders were closed during the pandemic, which seems pretty reasonable grounds for overstaying.

But - she didn't leave when the borders re-opened. She had fallen in love and at some point she filed paperwork to normalize her status - though they're pretty coy about when they filled the papers, so I suspect that was done after the borders re-opened and she should have left.

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I'm also going to point out what I haven't seen in any of the comments so far which is that, with ICE being pressured to increase the number of deportations, they're opting to go for low-hanging fruit. Unfortunately, that doesn't mean raiding places that they've known for decades are hiring illegal immigrants, arresting and prosecuting and imprisoning the owners and managers.

It does mean that they're hanging out at at least some airports, and it sounds like they're running passenger lists ahead of time (because they knew exactly who to approach). I mean, why to go the trouble of driving out to some farm or factory in the middle of nowhere, trying to chase down people who know the area better than you ever will, when you can sit at a comfy air-conditioned desk and only bother to get up when the computer lets you know that your "target" is trying to check in for their flight?

[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago

Agree completely, and to me when people like these two decide to do whatever they want because their love is "special", it shows ICE that hey, this is way easier and they'll focus more on these situations. This puts all the completely legal and above board immigrants in danger now.

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 28 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Nobody deserves to be punished for arbitrary political boundaries.

That being said, it's satisfying to see the people supporting those boundaries get punished by them.

[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 9 points 22 hours ago

I agree, but she and anyone else in her position have SIGNED paperwork in agreement with the terms that by X date you will leave the country. What the fuck else are we supposed to do if we just shrug and say oh well it's just a date. These two were blatantly attempting to trounce the laws and just do whatever they wanted.

[–] HowAbt2morrow@futurology.today 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Exactly. Did my dude think he could Karen his way through Customs? Papers have to be in order with Biden or Trump, now it’s worse though because they detain your ass.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 10 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

You don't go through customs to go to Puerto Rico, since it's a US territory.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 9 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

You still need to identify yourself to get on the plane. If your visa is flagged as expired, they are going to know and snatch you up

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 7 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Right, but I'm just saying this is no different from flying from Minneapolis to Denver. Someone saying "well of course ICE was gonna snatch you up, you set foot in an airport" is kind of crazy.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 6 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not defending ICE scooping up people. If you know that your visa is expired, you should assume that you are on their radar. Airlines verify all their passengers with TSA to ensure that no one is on a no fly list or q watchlist. Airports are secured locations where your identity has to be verified. Literally all it takes is for ICE to see you have signed up for a flight next Friday, and they can have an agent waiting for you at your gate.

[–] HowAbt2morrow@futurology.today 1 points 12 hours ago

Hold up. Is ICE “scooping” or “snatching”?

[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Not really, you are knowingly living here with an expired visa, you had ample opportunity to plan, reapply, change status, and many other options, they just...didn't. So, as a non citizen with an expired visa they no longer have freedom of movement (as a visa grants you specifically, freedom of movement within the borders of the United States and it's Territories)

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

On their way home from a honeymoon, immigration agents detained her at a Puerto Rico airport.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Oh are you saying I misread that? Like they honeymooned outside the US and were entering the US through Puerto Rico? That would make more sense.

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

That's how it reads to me, yeah.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Just reread it, sounds like that's not the case.

But last month, on their way home to Wisconsin after honeymooning in Puerto Rico, an immigration agent pulled Muñoz aside in the airport.

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 1 points 13 hours ago

Guess I missed that. Never even left the country, damn.