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The playbook is there, is being followed, you people have the 2nd amendment and I have no idea why these people walk freely while you struggle to pay rent and pay your meals
When the 2nd Amendment was written, a bunch of (trained) dudes with muskets represented the pinnacle of military power (at least if there wasn't any artillery around, even back then). So the 2nd Amendment gave the people the right to possess sufficient military power to counter the federal government. Today, having a closet full of peashooters means absolutely fucking nothing to a government with armored vehicles, tanks, helicopters, airplanes, cruise missiles, drones, intercontinental missiles and nukes at their disposal. The idea that the 2nd Amendment represents an antidote to a tyrannical federal government is just as much of a fantasy for the Left as it always has been for the Right.
Legalize 6th-gen fighter jets. Give me my Pepsi harrier!
civilian resistance has been notoriously hard for modern militaries to deal with.
hardened targets like tanks have become increasingly vulnerable.
drones are still scary, but anybody can use drones.
if you believe you're already defeated, then you probably are. i have no respect for cowards and pacifists.
I've been relentlessly posting this stuff early and asking why no one is mounting a resistance. Telling people to buy guns and go to immigrant neighborhoods and protect people they don't know.
I'm getting hammered with responses and PM's. It's crazy the way they think and act in this moment. It's very telling about their society and what will happen when they allow the wars to come to us.
Sure. The US military can just start murdering everyone in the country with their superior firepower. Then the economy is gone and so are the relatives and friends of the soldiers.
Look at Israel failing to militarily defeat Hamas. And that is not only with the firepower difference but also with decades of supremacist indoctrination and a near total disregard for the human life of the people they designate as enemies.
Look at how the Ukrainians took over their country in 2014, throwing stones and pushing garbage cans as shields against the army and police shooting at them.
If the people in the US were dedicated to oppose a fascist takeover, they would win. Yes people will die in the process, but the idea that the army would just massacre everyone without hesitation from a human perspective is far fetched, just as the idea of the government and their cronies happily affording to loose large parts of the population is far fetched.
I wouldn't say it's nothing. It's a lot less meaningful that it used to be but it can still be effective. Whoever killed that CEO last year only needed a basic gun and they managed to make America slightly better with it.
I wouldn't say "no chance". Last summer Trump was a few inches from being a chunkful of splattered History.
Of course the idea that the population could take the US military full-on is ridiculous. But resistance doesn't have to take the shape of traditional warfare, and anything would be better than the current overwhelming apathy that is the response to being governed by literal Nazis.
The regime can use drones but not the population. That's would be wrong.
Years of war history with your children being blown up in foreign countries by the poor people you invaded and you still have no idea what an IED is.
Unfortunately, there are many (right wing) USAians that would disagree with you. I’ve argued with them.
No one’s talking about fighting the military. You just form an armed mob like the black panthers did and scare politicians into submission lol. 330 million guns and people in this country no one needs to fire a shot at anyone.
Like Reagan made gun control laws real quick. We should learn from our own recent history
Might as well use it to just shoot up schools then
Lots of times this is brought up so I question you this. Why has no one organized cyber warfare against your regime?
Why are we in the outside world not yet supporting American revolutionists via the internet? Everyone seems to have connection. Loads have experience in IT in some way. Just Lemmy alone is full of Americans who fear bullets but own computers.
No bullets inside computers.
I'll probably get reported for inciting violence.
A land of armed dissidents who can't be bothered. They won't walk so lightly into Canada as heir drumpfkins continually threatens and they did and continue to do with your formerly democratic institutions. I can assure you of that.
Never even learned from the poor people you invaded and killed for the past century or more who fought back with much, much less than you have easily available. You'll praise the man in Tiananmen Square from behind the internet box, who stood up to a line of tanks with, what was it again? Oh yea, a couple of bags of groceries.
But you won't do shit for yourself and actively argue against any suggestion as being farcical.
All talk no action. Shouldn't be a hard defeat when the war comes. Sorry but we'll be considering people like you, responsible.
I mean ... the US government (the NSA specifically) can basically read anybody's electronic communications and let themselves into any networked device younger than 25 years old. If there were to be any kind of successful resistance to this administration, it couldn't be "cyber" in any way.
Don’t forget drones.
Also don’t forget the times the superior weaponry of the government was used against our own citizens. Things such as fire bombing our own city blocks or using turrets against protestors.
Are you guys really that scared of the military being used on you in the country? I’m ashamed of all of you. You sound like total cowards. It’s an irrational fear and it’s just a beacon of cowardice. nobody’s gonna drone strike your stupid little suburb.
TL;DR you don't understand shit about America.
I've been here for 40 fucking years. I can walk right up to my 80 year old senators house and say hey bitch time to step down. There's no army there. It's okay to be afraid, it's not okay to fearmonger up your delusions. Just stay home and quit crying. Go back to playing video games. I'm just looking for a hundred thousand people to help pressure congress people to step down by making them unwelcome in their home towns.
Yeah. It really is a good thing that nothing has happened in modern US history to make people think that the government would use military ordinance against civilians. /s
Well I guess we should all just hide, and project fear online until they come for us individually! Great idea coward. I'll get right on that.
Because 99.9999% of us prefer shitty life with our favorite distractions to death or prison.
There comes a point where that life isn't preferable anymore, but then it's too late.
Thing is. It is their first time. Most of Europe knows how this ends because generations that lived under a dictator are still alive today. Children of those generations are alive today and have first hand accounts of how it was.
Murrica has none of that.
And if any tankie is reading it. I am talking about soviets. Not nazis.
Agreed, but the Bread and Circus of centuries and millenia past have become extremely good. There wasn't even a term for air conditioning, either.
To get serious, citizens have to give up a lot of creature comforts. I don't see them doing that.