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[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 16 points 1 day ago (3 children)

60% of americans voted for this. Because deciding not to show up to the polls to vote against fascism is voting for it.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

I see this misconception all over the place and I can only assume it stems from not understanding the electoral college.

You overestimate how many people live in swing states.

Every non-voter who lives in California voted for Kamala. All of the state's EC votes went to her.

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 2 points 10 hours ago

The electoral college made 10 million voters who voted for biden in the 2020 elections sit home in 2024?

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

It's not that 60% was "okay with fascism."

It's that "60% of people have embraced toxic nihilism." Shaped from years of scrolling, overdosing on dopamine, reading and participating in contentious debates on the internet that never lead to an outcome, reading clickbait headlines that stopped making sense years ago, going home and sitting in front of a monitor instead of going out with friends to hang out and just talk about life, of eating the most addictive foods and getting all manner of drugs over the counter to alter their moods, their feelings, their perceptions.

We have everything to placate us and make us happy and it's killing everyone.

Many years ago I once sat with a local captain (like a constable) of a village in Southeast Asia. We were drinking gin and looking at the stars and he said "You know why gin here is cheap? And sold on every corner? Because as long as everyone makes their number one priority at the end of the day to come home and get drunk, you won't get people coming together and forming groups, of protesting the injustices, of changing the system" he said with a smile as he tossed back another shot.

Since then I've actually pursued this and have found evidence over and over how capital uses numbing agents to keep populations subdued, from the overt tactics well recorded and planned like the use of Opium in China, all the way through more modern places like Russia and vodka. And it works. And we have a lot more numbing agents around us now than just ingestible substances.

In places with fewer numbing agents, people are still having kids, still throwing parties and looking forward to poker every night with their grown siblings, of building a new barn or getting together to open a new store, or instead of spending 12 hours a day getting better at Marvel Rivals, they're playing basketball. Sure it happens here still, but it's in such radical decline that we have a dictator in charge and nobody cares. This is manufactured nihilism and don't mistake it for something else because that's exactly what the numbing agents want you to do.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Are you aware of how difficult/impossible it is for many Americans to vote? The GOP has dedicated decades to disenfranchising voters, and rigging elections via gerrymandering.

That's why this wasn't even close... He won by a landslide, despite the popular vote being razor-thin. He also won the last election in 2016 despite the popular vote being lost.

My country is severely fucked up at a governmental level.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 5 points 23 hours ago

And over decades, many of you didn’t care enough to vote those stains out. Here you reap the harvest of decades of apathy, laziness, performative “patriotism” and religion. Trump was an entirely predictable circumstance.

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How do you explain the ten million voters who had no problem voting for 2020 election but disappeared for 2024?

[–] Lime66@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because voting got harder for those people in that time. Because you know, the government usually does something in the span of four years

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

So voting got harder for democrats in the four years a democrat was president.

[–] Lime66@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Because states continued to gerrymander with essentially no oversight except for one supreme court ruling.

[–] InputZero@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wow your ignorance is astonishing. I'm not even an American and I can tell you that just because there was a Democrat in the Whitehouse doesn't mean he controls the election. It's written pretty plainly that the states are responsible for the election. The federal government just sets out requirements, so Biden had very little effect on the voter lists. State governors have much more influence on who votes and yes, voting did get harder between 2020 and 2024.

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee -3 points 23 hours ago

11 billion people disappeared off the coast of alaska because state governers shipped them away to die.