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Oh look another fascist, let's give him our money because privacy.
What the fuck are you even talking about? The Swiss government wants to backdoor encryption, and the first thing you think is “oh look, a fascist”.
You buffoon.
He is a fascist trying to control governments. Why the fuck does he think he gets unequal representation. Oh right he is a corporate fuck that you give money to and !!pRiVaCy!!. Sorry, not sorry you got played.
Go cry somewhere to your corporate overlords bootlicker. I am done carrying water for business that will fuck everyone over once the time is right.
Produmb.
The definition of Fascist isn't "anyone I don't like". Stop diluting the meaning.
He's a capitalist.
facepalm I can't even right now, but do yourself a favor and lookup what fascism means. This good cop bad cop charade is a joke. This is just another move to bring in more customers and you're like a fish already on the hook.
Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology and movement. It is characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of ...
Yes, and a government taking away privacy rights that is giving into authoritarianism and a corporation trying to control the situation is textbook fascism.
Trying to pretend a corporation hack is the good guy or the government is right are both ridiculous.
In a perfect world the Swiss would enshrine privacy protection in their constitution and Proton would have a shit ton of competition or cease to exist because their service is moot and we would never hear another dumb take from them ever again.
It is clear a lot of people are not prepared to see through the bullshit here
Explain how please. I honestly don't get it.
What part of "capitalist" did you mistake for being good?
Authoritarian governments make moves like this and corporations join with them. These are the ingredients for facism when the marriage of these two happen. You are watching pro wrestling here. Proton is trying to make the government the heel but they are both on the same side.
Capitalism is horrible without a lot of guardrails as we can probably both agree on. I would argue we are far off the rails at this point and corporations have been calling the shots for a long time. So pardon me when I call out a propaganda piece for Proton.
You're not a tenth as smart as you believe yourself to be.
Please elaborate, I could use a good chuckle.
This wildly irresponsible and ignorant reactionary bullshit wins you a block. Dont need you showing up in any threads from here out...
Show us your latest private messages and dox yourself if you think privacy is not an important thing.
If you think a corporate tool is going to save your privacy then you got serious problems. It is a fucking illusion and you are getting played by fascists.
Surely we need strong privacy laws, but defending this turd is not the way.
This turd is arguing against privacy invasive laws though.
You can dislike him but the message here is very clear.
It is like Elon Musk all over again. He is not calling for privacy to be enshrined in their constitution. He is not pushing policy to prevent this. He is not the fucking good guy threatening to pack up and leave and comparing to Russia (an absolutely dick comparison, the fucking asshole).
Why does he not promote actually policy that would force all companies to provide the same he does? It is easy, the company would lose their advantage. Produmb.
It’s a very good comparison, you absolute twatwaffle. Russia has the exact same law in the books.
Idk what the fuck your problem is, but you’re obviously a dumbass who doesn’t know what the fuck you’re talking about.
Only a Russian troll or a fool would ever compare Russia to Switzerland. The fact that you are buying into this nonsense shows their propaganda is working on you.
You must be sore carrying all that water for your next messiah. What an unbearable twat you are.
You obviously can't comprehend the words coming out of your fingers.
Ok, let me slow it down for you, so even an idiot like you can understand it.
Russia has a law that requires VPNs to monitor their users so that the government can see what you’re doing.
Switzerland is planning to pass a law that requires VPNs to monitor their users so that the government can see what you’re doing.
There’s a reason you’re being downvoted so much, and it’s because you’re sitting there arguing against the current laws that protect Swiss privacy in favor of stripping that privacy away so that other governments like the United States can request access to the data, all because you don’t like some CEO because he liked one of Trumps picks.
You're forgetting, or more likely are probably too stupid to realize that the Swiss passing this law benefits Trump, and by extension Trumps masters in the Kremlin.
Only one of us is rooting for the Russians, and if you want to figure out who it is, look in the damn mirror you idiot.
Let me slow it down for you even more. Proton is a bullshit corporation trying to get more business. The Swedish officials recognize a ton of felonious activities are taking place on platforms that use privacy as a selling point.
They are not fucking Russia and similar laws have little to do with anything as the two share a shit ton of similar laws already.
Proton is using half assed propaganda to try and get more businesses. This is the grandstanding. Threatening to pack up and leave is fucking ridiculous. It is like you can't help your bootlicking when you hear garbage like this.
The sheer fucking irony of a liberal bitching about bootlickers while arguing in favor of a surveillance state.
See, this is how dumb you are acting. Proton already willing cooperates with governments. You are the definition of stooge.
The sheer irony of someone who doesn't even understand the definition of liberalism and acts like everyone who believes in equality and the rule of law is suddenly a Neolib all the while being a corporate apologist is pretty rich.
I got downvoted talking shit about Elon for several years. You think I care about what a bunch of wanna be edgelords technocrats who don't know jack shit think about my opinions!?
Please grow a brain cell and stop falling for this propaganda designed to make a corporation more money bullshit. You are better than this.
Says the person stanning the fucking government.
I think privacy should be enshrined in the constitution so no law like this could be constitutional.
On another note, If you can't trust the Switzerland government who the fuck can you trust? Oh yes your pRiVaTe corporate overlords. Produmb!
Not only don’t you read the article, you can’t figure out what you believe because you’re making it up on the spot based on nothing more than “Andy Yen bad”.
There’s no point arguing with you, because you aren’t even consistent enough to maintain your viewpoint across a few posts. Just save us both the trouble and go back to the vibe-based, pumpkin spiced reality you’ve built where minorities all agree with libs and the government are the good guys.
Never even mentioned that loser. The amount of mental gymnastics you must do is amazing.
I was just telling you my opinion based on reality. You should try it some time if you can stop sucking on the teets of your technocrat sugar daddies.
I should have been clearer for my corporate loving edgelords. Privacy and the expectations for it should be spelled out in the constitution as Switzerland, USA, and even Russia already contain something about privacy.
This is no longer adequate for our modern lives and it is being dutifully ignored by every major country. This conversation becomes very complex because there are of course limits to this right and there should be good debate and further amendments to our laws to protect individuals from corporations.
The expectation that "government bad" is just more propaganda pushed by corporations to enrich themselves.
Proton is not recognizing any of this and instead we get bombastic "they are just like Russia" and "We are taking our toys and leaving".
Here you are, the corporate apologist here to explain and spin what they said. If you get anything from this, please open your fucking eyes to reality because your head is pretty deep at this point. Cheers!
Lmao
Waiting for the alternative to government edgelords...
I saw a quote from someone who read the article.
"If this passes and Produmb doesn't leave, I will"
I may have to paraphrased that a little for clarity.
Oh no, your favorite corporation might get enshittified! You mean the same thing that happens in every corporation? Not Produmb though they are different!
You don't know shit about Switzerland or their government. The poorly translated French article said it was a "damming comparison to Russia".
It is not damming, it is fucking stupid and so are you for buying into this corporate propaganda designed to keep and increase their user base.
The fact that you see a government as corrupt but Produmb as some pure entity of goodwill shows just how gullible you are. I actually feel kind of bad for you at this point.