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Whats the overunder on Trump respecting this?
I’m more concerned with the military command respecting the court decision. They are the ones with the guns. That would be a problem.
Yeah, there's a problem in the assumption that this is a decision for Trump to make and that everyone under the executive just needs to wait for a decision from above about whether court orders should be obeyed. When the courts say an act was illegal, the default stance for a public employee should be to implement that instruction.
Friday at noon Gavin Newsome is their commander, whether or not Trump agrees. If they're going to refuse that, that's the guard itself deciding to act illegally, not a choice by Trump that they just have to follow.
Agreed. It doesn't matter if trump likes the decision or not. If the National Guard commanders (and soldiers) follow the governors orders, trump is out of the equation (on this one...for now).
Thats not how overunders work...
Over/unders need to have a numeric value, not a yes/no.
An over/under could be, "how quickly until trump disrespects this?" Or even better, state the line yourself. "Over/under 1 hour until trump appeals this?" Then people can actually pick under or over.