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Iranian woman, who has lived in US for 47 years, taken by Ice while gardening
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How can trumpers not see that ICE is pissing our money away just to torture good people?
Trumpers only see Trumpers as "good people." if they could press a button and watch everyone around them who isn't one die in agony for the schaudenfreude of it, they would.
That's why they're trying to turn empathy into a character deficit and slur.
This is what separates them from everyone else. I'm an extreme leftist, something some low information Americans incorrectly paint as just as extreme as the MAGA cult, when I want that MAGA cult to have access to Healthcare based on need, higher Ed based solely on merit, conditionless housing and social supports, while they want me dead, and preferably painfully.
I pity them because they were made by for profit media propaganda meant to divide and profit.
The really stupid thing is, this woman might have been pro-Trump, there are other minorities that are. Trump people are so short sighted.
Drumpf doesn't need voters no more.......
Who will evaluate need and merit?
"Meritocracy" is the one word communists here in Russia use that I've learned to absolutely hate, they mean by that a hierarchical system where it's administratively decided who behaved well and who didn't.
See, that's the problem with leftists, always trying to use contrasts to make their virtue signaling look better.
Most leftists are like "we haven't yet invented a system, but we will compare an imagined one fulfilling all our desires to the worst real world ones". And those who are inventing systems, are the least popular - cause such a thought experiment system will already be worse than one fulfilling all desires. Not talking sweet enough.
Doctors and academic performance records aka grades weighed by academics, not bloodsucking capitalist leeches.
Any metric used as a KPI stops being useful as a metric, have you heard that?
The very moment academics and such are going to decide on real power, you'll have the right academics emerge, of "scientific communism professors" kind.
If they outline their methodology and outcomes, if science indicates an economic system will maximize wellbeing for the most individuals in a society, it should be our system based on the information available. And it should change if new data supercedes the old.
Capitalism has proven to be incompatible with democracy over time and detrimental to any social contract. It's a "die alone" economic system on a planet we need to care for and live together on. We ain't getting to mars, we're killing the planet the human habitability of the world we came from and this was super easy baby just don't shit where you sleep mode and we keep proving we can't even do that.
I'll never understand people that denegrate the scientific community. They and their predecessors are the reason you aren't going to be dead by 30, why we're even able to bitch on the internet right now. The scientific method and community have done more for humanity in 500 years than every theologen and diety mankind has ever been inspired to pull out of their ass.
Capitalism will end in the next 50 years, either by murder of it or the mass ecological suicide it causes. It's pathetic how many people that are willing to end the species so they can pretend they'll be rich the rich assholes living on the poors backs one day.
It's as if you hadn't read the comment you're answering.
I'm not denigrating anything. I'm saying that "scientific communism" is not science, even if it officially is called that. It's like doctors of theology teaching you how to build a society. And any "scientific approach to governing" will lead to such a substitution, because people really holding power will invent that to keep it in fact.
And I see that you completely ignored the part about metrics used as KPIs always being gamed, thus hierarchical meritocracy plainly not being possible.
I've got gangbanged with downvotes recently for reminding that capitalism is literally the first "formation", if we play by Marx, in relative modernity (antique Mediterranean was a whole different thing, but it relied upon good climatic conditions, good connectivity allowing Egypt to feed the whole of it, common ethnically and religiously pluralist cultural space, and slavery), to offer horizontal mobility of the kind we consider normal, and vertical mobility to a bigger extent than before.
The person I was answering to thought that in a medieval town before capitalism you could just make a thing and sell it. In fact to make a shoe you had to be a shoemaker (by inheritance or by apprenticeship if the master had no children or decided to disinherit them, or by guild if in a bigger town), and if you weren't, making a shoe even for yourself was considered stealing from the shoemakers.
It's funny how, say, Robin Hood stories show it as it was, and those are supposed to be known enough, but people have such misconceptions.
Or even Tolkien's Shire - look closely how Hobbits' life looks.
A person would literally grow as a non-uniform piece of a non-uniform fabric of the medieval society, they couldn't significantly change their place whether they were a peasant or a prince. Being born a son of a carpenter, you wouldn't become cook. If you were the oldest son, you were expected to take on their trade and role of the carpenter in this particular place or part of the city, or to work for the oldest son. You were judged by the surrounding people if you didn't. If you were the younger son, it was a bit more normal to seek apprenticeship of some other specialty, maybe. So the cookshop's master could take you as an apprentice, if all his sons would go rogue and not take on his trade, or maybe not, but then even after ending your apprenticeship you'd work for the cook, not be the cook in that cookshop. You couldn't just open your own cookshop without like everyone approving it. It was a rare event. People in a medieval town wouldn't understand why they need a third carpenter if there are two carpenters and it always was so. Or why they need a second cookshop if the existing one was always here. It required significant changes - the town's role growing and it needing to accommodate newcomers, or a neighboring town being razed, thus the balance changing.
So - the purpose of this text was to explain that capitalism has achieved quite a lot. And when you are making a change, it's not a win-win game, you can both gain something you didn't have and lose something you had.
Anyway. All this is bullshit. The only ideological virtue humans can have is being able to, quoting Kipling, "... watch the things you gave your life to, broken, and stoop and build ’em up with worn-out tools". That's because our kind is absolutely incapable of seeing and valuing what we already have and separating dreams of what we don't from the reality of what we'll get trying to achieve that. Everything comes to ruin.
So the only good trait of a clearly political ideology would be wide participation and rotation, so that as many people as possible were contributors of a political system. A cook can govern a state (as Lenin said), it's just important that it's not one cook, but many cooks, and that none of them keeps a position of power long enough to start thinking they know something, and that none of them can take a position of power predictably.
As you might have noticed, this is the opposite of any meritocracy with "wise elders" deciding who deserves to be assigned to a post and role and who doesn't.
Why is it even a question? Would you rather live in a plague of nepobabies? Meritocracy isn't some stretched definition or vague notion being chased.
It is both. No human can be entrusted evaluating merit for the "meritocracy" word to form, that is, to defined a hierarchy.
They don't actually care about pissing money away. They enjoy good people getting tortured because they hate them and do not see them as people.
They do see them as people, but specifically bad people. A non-person would be beneath their notice. A bad person on the other hand, becomes the target of their wrath and cruelty and it is justified to do this to them because they are bad.
Racism.
They enjoy the torment. They're sadists.
It's your money they're using, so why would they care ?
The Trumper cult will hate and kill at any cost. That's their main MO, hatred and to inflict pain. They are 100% objectively bad people.
In a lot of situations there are just good people in bad situations, but no, these are, by any measure, simply bad (sub)humans. They are irredeemable sociopaths and a net negative on society.
Democratic administrations actually deported more people than Republicans. But the difference is that Democrats do so with case by case consideration and by the book; Republicans, meanwhile, wants to do away with the bureaucracy and blanket deport anyone who have any iota of questionable immigration status. This is precisely what Trumpers want-- get rid of people they don't like by doing away with the rules that hinder their desires.