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I love Pat, but anything north of 100/4 would be madness.
Isn’t 4/100 a horrendous overpay as it is
I would say in the current it might be a slight overpay for his on court value, but the defense and somewhat consistent shooting alongside potential upside to get better might raise that number somewhat
$25m is going to be less than 15% of the luxury tax line next year and only going to go down. So no it really isn't an overpay
10-15% cap for a guy that's a solid bench piece on a contender isnt great
He’s still 22. A lot of guys don’t start hitting their stride until the middle of their second contract
Bulls fans have been hyping him up for years as this guy with major potential. He’s just not that good. A bunch of players that got drafted in drafts after his are all ready so much better than him
He was the youngest player in the league when he was drafted and he missed almost his entire second year with injury. He's still a huge work in progress. That doesn't mean he's necessarily worth 25m+ a year, but it's not a surprise that guys drafted more recently have better production.
Honestly…getting 25 mill a year is kinda insane, and I love the kids game. Realistically it should be more like 15-20 million a year for 4 years imo with the production he has actually shown.
Nah he’s definitely worth low 20’s imo. Decent role players are being paid 12-18 and Pat is still really young. 6’7, 42% from 3 and 22 years old is still promising.
Disagree but thanks for chiming in
Like, what is he thinking he deserves: 5/200, $40mil per year? That's almost in cognitive dissonance category. jfc.
It says starts with a 2 and isn't 20, so presumably 25-29m/y?
I read it as 200 as well. Thanks for clarifying
Could just be 2
Lel
“Wants big, big money starts with a 2 and isn’t $20”
This implies he’s asking for $200M
No the other guy is right. Starts with a 2 and isn't 20: 25,26,27,28,29.
It's not implying 200 million.
He is not asking for 200 mil. They're talking per year. That's why he referenced 20 per. Which is kind of reasonable, but 24+ isn't.
I don't really think 20/y is reasonable for someone with as light a CV as his.
no it doesn’t. it implies he wants somewhere between $21m and $29m / year lol.
I think that's just assuming the worst. Literally anything between 21 and 29 works for that too
context wants to be your friend
Further on they say “I don’t know if I want to give him $25M” and they use Vassell as a comp, who is making $27M a year. So yes, they mean it’s anywhere from 21-29M a year.
at minimum it would have to be north of 25 since him getting $21M is close enough to 20 that it isn't something you make a distinction over. It has to be noticeably different to merit that kind of comment from Lowe.
2M
I don't think he is even eligible to sign for $200M in total
Lol, he thinks he deserves that much more than Devin Vassell, lol.
It's 20/200
For what? What has dude done?
Large reason why the Bulls had a top 5 defense last year despite starting Lavine Demar and Vucevic, for one
I will give you that he does play good defense. But a dude that plays good defense and has a poor offensive game is not a $20 million a year player. Those guys are out there and available
Stares in Dillon brooks lmao
he was also the Bulls best 3pt shooter last year, and we ranked worst for 3pts made
He still needs to shoot a lot more though
By god, that’s Rudy Gobert’s music
He's a solid-good option to throw on the other teams best offensive player every night but he was far from carrying our defense. No reason to throw Lavine whose improved massively under the bus for PWill either.
100 would be absurd too. Bro is like the 7th best player on a team that didn’t make the playoffs
Don’t watch the Bulls when they’re not playing the Celts but when they do match up I’ve never seen him do anything slightly impressive.
Yup. He’s in the rui hachimura range if I had to guess: 3 yr 51 mill. And even that would be way too rich for my blood.
100/4 is still kind of nuts unless he makes a leap this year
100/4 would also be madness.
We're likely to give precious a 4/48 deal. I think 5/100 would be something to give him in your case.
Nah man $200m/10 years
MLE at best
We’re in like our 3rd year of hoping he’ll take the next step on offense and he just feels so reluctant. I agree 100/4 is the very max I’d be willing to spend
100 years at $40k sounds about right lol