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Although the megapixel fetish race is the one that gets the most attention, I think the ISO equivalent is also pretty amusing (in a "shakes head, looks baffled" kind of way).

Now, I should preface all this by mentioning that I don't have a "genre" of photography. I just photograph whatever attracts my attention at any given time, and that can be day or night.

Recently I saw a camera review in which the reviewer was showing pictures captured at ISOs that would have been considered witchcraft even ten years ago. They looked like garbage - noisy as anything and generally an aesthetic mess. But apparently the fact that they were taken at stratospheric ISO levels means that the whole world must see them because, I don't know, reasons.

Although I've used cameras that are well known for good high ISO performance, a look through my Google photos collection shows me that I almost never go beyond ISO 3200, and I would guess that less than 5% of my (tens of thousands of) photos are shot at that sensitivity. On a usual day, I find that if I have a fast lens (F2 or quicker), I can get almost anything I want to shoot without going past ISO 800, or 1600 in a pinch.

I'd be interested to hear from people who do use these 5-or-6 digit ISOs on a regular basis, and what they shoot that necessitates these ISOs. Let's hear some thoughts.

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[–] josephallenkeys@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

People will go through great lengths to not understand lighting.

[–] diabolical_diarrhea@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

You sound like a pretentious prick. I'm not demeaning you, just letting you know how you sound in case you want to change it in the future.

[–] HI_I_AM_NEO@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm not demeaning you,

I think you need a dictionary lol

[–] amithetofu@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think you do

Damn you just got burned by that comeback. I'll get some cold water

[–] josephallenkeys@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You sound aggressive and presumptuous. I'm prepared to stand by my statement.

[–] diabolical_diarrhea@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Go on then. How do you "learn lighting" in an environment you cannot control?

[–] josephallenkeys@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You learn by doing and recognising. (I know, summing it up like that is a bit of a cop out.) You learn to watch people's actions, by seeing contrast in what light is available and learning your own limitations of motions vs shutter speed vs what your subject is. (It's not always formulaic.) You learn what makes a bad image and redirect your efforts to what you learn is a good opportunity. If you have to get the image under terrible conditions, because the client needs it, you just get it. If you don't, you can safely pass it by. You introduce strobe lighting when you can - providing it doesn't disturb the atmosphere of the job at hand (like a wedding in a church). And you invest in lenses before bodies, as always.

[–] diabolical_diarrhea@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

And sometimes, the thing you can control is ISO. If the choice is push the ISO or not take the shot, you push the ISO.

[–] josephallenkeys@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I'm prepared for you to think that I'm a prick and not take any of my advice, but your post history tells me you're perhaps a beginner so if you'd like to learn anything, I have a track record of very happy clients that I wear on my sleeve (or rather, link to on my profile.) I'm happy to share my experience.

[–] Tasty_Comfortable_77@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I like comments which both make a valid point and also stir up a hornet's nest!

[–] josephallenkeys@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I'm not sure why it's quite so controversial to be honest. I'm not directly accusing people who use a high ISO of not knowing what they're doing by definition. I'm just with you in that people will put a lot of emphasis on specs that they probably don't need to.

[–] SkoomaDentist@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Going to be mighty difficult to adjust lighting in events you don't control.

[–] josephallenkeys@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Bounce flash and direct flash with mods are valuable techniques. Sure. There are times when you're shit out of luck and you'll rely on those fast lenses and high ISOs. But there's still a difference between low light and bad light and what a big difference in how to handle them.