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As much as I would love a very progressive Democrat from New York to be president she realistically has no chance of getting enough voters to win the GE especially in the purple/red states that Harris had a hard time with.
The best she could aim for is running in the primary, shaking up the candidates and getting the winner to adopt her agenda or at least have her as a VP.
Bullshit. She has a better chance in those states than Harris had, specifically because she isn't an establishment Democrat.
How much longer is it going to take before folks finally start to get it through their heads that left populists like Bernie and AOC can tap into the same disillusionment that Trump exploited?
Sorry, best we can do is Cuomo. - DNC, probably
To be fair, Harris was a reasonably unlikable candidate. Maybe AOC has similar baggage. I hope not. I'd love to see her at the top of a ticket.
I don't think AOC has that baggage. Democratic voters want someone that isn't a corpo-centrist running like being not-Trump is enough. Every argument that can be made against AOC could have been made against Obama in 2006 too, but he had a message that resonated and won. AOC could be in a good position to do something similar. I'd sure vote for her, even if she's become more mainstream she's still miles ahead of every other likely candidate.
It doesn't matter what her message is, no one will hear it because the news will only be reporting on what the white house tells them to report, and if they go off script they will get their licenses pulled or sued for billions.
That’s going to be equally true no matter who the nominee is—and given that, the key factor will be which candidate best appeals to the fraction of the population that doesn’t rely on Trump-aligned news.
One of the biggest issues with Harris is that she wasn't elected in the primary. If AOC is elected in the primary, she has way more of a chance.
Harris had a hard time with those places because she was an empty suit neoliberal promising no significant change whatsoever and also genocide. The whole "it's misogyny and/or racism" thing is a cop out so establishment Dems don't have to confront their godawful platform. Obama sure as hell didn't struggle with those red and purple states.
Unlike Biden?
Obama is a man.
Black men were granted the right to vote in America before white women were.
Literally yes. Biden was the most progressive American president in a loooong time (or at least one of the most progressive depending on how you parse Obama), and his campaign showed it. I mean he was still a neolib and definitely not the man of the hour, but in more normal times (and without a genocide to aid and abet) he'd be considered a better than average president, though one with his pitfalls.
Sure, but I have a very hard time believing your average potential blue voter (so not MAGA chuds) would hate a black woman appreciably more than a black man. Black is firmly at the top of the hierarchy of American hate; they got the right to vote sooner because they were willing to take to the streets about it sooner.
Phew, it's a good thing Trump solved that genocide, right fellas!
That has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.
If Harris brought genocide, you're saying Trump didn't.
What the fuck? I said Harris promised genocide, which she did. Learn some reading comprehension.
I think you misremember. Trump actually promised to further the genocide. And he delivered too.
Okay say something relevant or bless us with your silence. Just because there's another genocider out there doesn't mean your favorite genocider isn't also a genocider.
That's my point! Thank you.
Enjoy your weekend
And allowing Trump to win by not electing Harris benefited the victims of genocide how, exactly?
It didn't and that has fucking nothing to do with what I'm talking about. Like, god damn did you even read what I wrote? Hint: It's about the future (and AOC), not the past.
He certainly delivered on significant change!
That's definitely true. In the worst way possible, so far.
I think winner adopted agenda would be nice but I don't think VP is the move. I would love for her to take Schumers seat.