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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 108 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Why? Who's asking for this stuff, is there somebody out there who is really pleased with this news or is Microsoft really just that out of touch.

I don't want to have to start wearing rainbow knee-length socks, but Microsoft are pushing me towards it.

[–] orioler25@lemmy.world 93 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Consumers are not the main driver of profit, speculative value is. Microsoft knows that Windows is guaranteed to be on the majority of PC's, which means they can afford to implement hostile features that increase the speculative value on data collection and AI investment.

[–] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago

This is well said. So many people don't get that of course these companies know you hate this shit.

They're just trying to boost their stock value and violate your privacy harder.

[–] audaxdreik@pawb.social 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Once you realize this, you also realize that there's no going back for them either. If by some slim chance there's enough resistance for them to pause or rollback some features, it's only temporary. The overall course remains clear and they will continue to move in that direction regardless.

There disdain for you as a consumer could not be made any clearer.

[–] Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Their, as in the disdain microsoft has for the user, not there, as in microsoft put the disdain in a box and it's sitting across the room over there. However, your point is valid and stands.

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What would the world do without people like you?

[–] Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

Probably be less angry about grammar and spelling "nazis." I'm guilty of those mistakes too, so I am not above being corrected myself.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] orioler25@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Yeah exactly. Sucks if you have a job that forces you to use Windows though, which is largely how MS has this stanglehold on PC share. Once this becomes an expensive security risk, maybe more businesses will switch to paid Linux OS's.

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't think MS is out of touch with what the customer wants, I think they just stopped listening.

The fact is nobody is asking for this stuff.

I think the hope is that they build it anyway and then people will use/want it. AI is the big buzzword of the decade, just like 'cloud' was the big buzzword of last decade.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

my hope is that they implement it and we get another wave of people on linux

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A nice thought.
Unfortunately the only ones who switch will be people 1. Know that it is even possible to switch/that they have an option to switch, and 2. Have the technical knowledge to back up their data, then download and install Linux, that 3. Don't have to run Windows for other reasons and/or haven't already switched.

Unfortunately with all three qualifiers you aren't left with a giant number. Certainly no mass exodus.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

i think the steam machine will help. it's a computer that's bound to be popular for more normie kind of people, and runs linux.

plenty of technical people left to switch too, that haven't been so annoyed just yet.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 19 points 1 week ago

In theory, I could use an AI for doing stuff. For example, opening ripped videos, finding the timestamp where the episode name is given, and then copying that into the video's filename. Afterwards, it can open Handbrake, use my preferred settings for audio and subs, then start the conversion of multiple files.

However, this is all predicated on the AI not doing unwanted things - such as giving Microsoft my personal information, preferences in hentai, and passwords.

Someday I will use agentic AI, but it will be on my terms.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've read this exact questions tens of times now. This is capitalism. Now why would a for profit company ever do anything? I leave you to your deductions.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Won't they make more money if they don't piss everyone off.

[–] QuandaleDingle@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

They can't think that far ahead. Quarterly earnings are king.

[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm not sure what's worse, the greybeard stereotype or the socks.

[–] addie@feddit.uk 12 points 1 week ago

Oh, the greybeard stereotype, for sure. Carrying the weight required for the 'classic RMS' look isn't good for your health. Cute twinks in knee-high socks carrying a blahaj are much better, everyone loves them.

Now, the fully-actuated fursuit for if you want to be taken seriously as a sysadmin? That's an expensive hobby.

[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

wdym worse? the socks aren't bad

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Just a bit misgendery for my tastes. Also some right wing people have glommed onto the whole femboy thing. There is 100% a femboy-fascist pipeline.

[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not heard of any femboy-fascist pipeline

I'd assume that fascists would hate femboys for being unmanly men

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The basic idea is that it can stem from the incel world, the attitude that if they can't have women, they can become them. It can be a way to affirm hypermasculinity, not challenge it.

So it ends up being dominance, forcing men into subservience.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQmpH9NHmjI

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Woah woah woah, lot's not compare fabulous knee high rainbow socks with the malware MS is putting in their OS. That's not fair to rainbows or socks.

[–] SparroHawc@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago

The implication is that they'll have to jump ship to Linux, and thus become a member of the unixsocks community.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Microsoft is forcefemming en masse.

[–] ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago

I don't want to have to start wearing rainbow knee-length socks

it’s pretty obvious that you do

[–] salacious_coaster@infosec.pub 5 points 1 week ago

The socks have a bit of a learning curve, depending on what you want to do with them, but it's worth it. It's such a huge relief to not care how much more Windows is getting enshittified this week, since it's not my problem anymore.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

I work in IT for businesses and the number of times I've had to debunk AI slop hallucinations as actual troubleshooting information is not zero.

"Yes, I can see the instructions say to check that checkbox, however, that checkbox does not exist" (screenshot of relevant control panel).

This is just evidence, to me, that business types are already relying on AI instead of doing any actual thought or research on any topic they don't already have a deep understanding of, or are too lazy to bother with.

Consumers are not driving this change.

The worst part is that it's an echo chamber of yes-men that seem to be pushing for it. The AI enthusiasts trying to sell their crap, convincing the middle managers that they need their AI crap, and them buying it and asking for more/better AI crap, and the cycle continues. At no point does any of the output of any AI system provide any unique insight, or value, to anyone. The rest of us are being dragged along for the ride, regardless of what we want.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

Isn't it so they can train their AI on your personal files?

[–] TheProtagonist@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

The tech industry puts bazillions of dollars into AI development and now it has to put AI literally everywhere to make it look somehow useful. Whether the customer / user wants this or not. I guess they are hoping that people will eventually like it.