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I was out with some casual friends last night, the topic of the shooting came up. I was sickened listening to them talking about how she was at fault for putting herself in harms way, how she was asking for it by trying to run down law enforcement who are "just doing their job."
We're completely fucked, most of the public just laps up whatever bullshit they are fed and do not spend one second critically thinking about anything. They just accept that 2000 masked and armed federal agents decending on our neighborhoods and shooting people in the fucking face is a normal thing and they save their anger for the people they are crushing under their boots.
Your dipshit casual friends, whom you need to dump immediately, clearly haven't watched the entire video, or are entirely comfortable blatantly lying about it.
The video is clear. She starts to pull out, realizes there's oncoming traffic, then waves at them to pass, then two masked men exit the unmarked pickup truck brandishing weapons and one tries to reach into her car to open the door. So she took off like anyone in their right mind would when two randos with guns try to pull you out of your car.
Your casual friends are bad people. Stop interacting with them.
again, these are co-workers, and this was the first indication I got from them about this sort of opinion. I'm not besties with these people, but do need to professionally interact with them.
The point is more that this is in idication of how typical americans feel these days. These are as 'normal' of people as I know; all my friends run in lefty circles and are well informed, so not typical american normies. I was just taken aback that otherwise normal, functional people could see things that way. I shouldn't be surprised, just the week prior I heard so many people accept that fucking bullshit daycare story without a moment's critical thought about it. It doesn't matter that the centers accused in the video have been exonerated, it doesn't matter that there has been ongoing investigations and prosecutions as a result. People hear something that triggers them and they just shut off their brain.
That's what we're against, I don't even think the assholes doing this are the biggest problem we have, I think the biggest issue is the apathaty and stupidity of the masses.
That's really disheartening to hear. We need to keep hammering home that this is not normal to all our friends And family. People are understandably scared, and not everyone is as plugged in to reality. Sometimes they accept the narrative out of fear, they want to believe that if they behave and follow the rules they won't be shot in the face as well.
The good news is that you can only ignore reality for so long before it comes stomping down your door. The bad news is at that point it might be too late for any of us.
I am choosing to remain hopeful that these people will not get away with this. This regime is incompetent, and there are many people pushing back against them everywhere.
I argued very forcefully against everythign they had to say; I even got an apology from one of them, but I don't think I ultimately changed any minds. It's just so much easier for people to believe that the victims are at fault, it lets them feel superior, safe, etc.
I have not brought any of this up with my kids, but my 5th grader came home in tears yesterday because he's afraid of ICE now. This is not ok. Our government is terrorizing it's citizens and most people seem to love the fear.
Yes, the fear and anger is addictive. It's why reality TV shows are so popular, it's why outrageousness in the news headlines are par for the course. Americans are so very disconnected from real life and have been for a long time. Issues across the world barely register on the average American radar. It's become a deeply unhealthy culture and I don't know how your country is going to survive this.
Well hopefully you made them go home and think at least, instead of just reassuring themselves and moving on until the next tragedy happens.
I can't even think of what we should tell our kids. It's impossible to say it's going to be alright, and mean it right now. I'm sorry your fifth grader is so scared. Luckily my little girl is only 3 so she doesn't see anything yet. I'm going to protect her from that for as long as I can.
No, only conservatives, who voted for this to happen to our country. And they represent about 30% of the populace.
Still WAY too high of a percentage of mentally ill people.
I disagree, it's not just a conserviative problem; there's an authoritarian problem that straddles both sides. I think the left is less susceptible to it, but it's there. I know plenty of "lliberals" who accept things uncritically as well, and plenty who are perfectly happy submitting to any authority.
I have "liberal" relatives who argue to this day that it's all just politics, and that biden was worse because he forced masks.
Indeed, democrats are pushing internet surveillance and censorship as we speak. Both major American parties want to control you (they're both funded by the same people so no surprise).
Yeah I stopped being friends with such people. Lack of brain capacity is a big turn off
These are work friends, so can't get away from them. I am working on finding a new job though.
Did you try to correct the lies they had been fed?
I did, not sure how many minds I changed. https://awful.systems/post/6867430/9998651
What's up with that link?
D’’oh, meant to paste a quote, must have had a url in my clipboard. Thanks for the heads up.
Even one changed mind is better than leaving the lies and bullshit unchallenged.
You can, and should, stop talking to them. Especially outside of work. You should not be going out with people like this. They wish harm on others for no reason.
The point isn't these specific "friends", the point is, these are what I would consider normal, average people. These are coworkers, some of who I know to be otherwise good and rational people. I honestly would not think that normal people would react with such deference to authority.
Of course this will inform every interaction I have with them from here, but again, the point is, these folks represent the person next to you in line at the grocery store, the person you wave through traffic at a stop sign, the person delivering your amazon packages.
It's not just lack of brain capacity. Some of the nicest people I've ever met in my life were mentally handicapped.
These people are actively malicious. They want to hurt others.
Yeah, the only way to stay somewhat sane now is to block the MAGA people. They are exhausting with their propaganda and lies 24/7.
If those are your friends, I'm sorry for you, there's actual decent and smart people out there, don't give these goons your time, even if it makes you lonely, it's just enabling their shit if you go along with it