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[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

So, in other words, it's perfectly viable ... just not economically viable.

That's a failure of our economy, not of the technology. Perhaps if all the externalities of fossil fuel emissions were included in the cost of fossil fuel shipping (say, with massive taxes on fossil fuels to fund environmental efforts and carbon capture), that would change the balance.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I’m not sure sail is even viable, as in not compatible with modern capitalism. Most shipping has some sort of schedule or deadline, and you can’t just take an extra month “ because we were becalmed”

Although I was also going to object based on more complex harbors, but that leads right to battery power. Right where all the shipping, all the emissions, all the pollution comes together where it can harm people ……. Why not battery-only, while in harbor?

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 2 points 1 day ago

And for that matter, battery power as a backup when you're becalmed as well.

Hell, even fossil fuel power as a backup would be better than fossil fuel power as the main and only power source.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

That's like saying, "So it's perfectly possible ... just not physically possible." If you cannot afford to do something, then you can't do it. It's freaking tautological.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 1 points 2 days ago

"Can't afford it" is very, very different than "not physically possible".

If our economic system changed, then it could be perfectly viable again.