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[–] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 95 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Pro tip: If you must use Windows, pick Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021. Most things still run on it, and that baby's got no user-facing slop and five more years of support in it. Mass Grave dot dev.

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Pro tip: If you must use Windows, pick lobotomy

[–] filcuk@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

As a certified lobotomite, one and the same.

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

+1 massgrave. Got the extended support for my regular W10 pro. After that, it's going to be debian if - fingers crossed - nothing breaks. It's a 6700K build.

[–] Patrikvo@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s a 6700K build.

That's hot, are you sure you hooked up the fans?

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

That's just the RGBW LED color temperature.

[–] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago

Going to Linux is probably the more sustainable solution (I ended up on Ubuntu and my 4130 is happy enough) but you apparently might be able to convert-in-place to the IoT edition, if that's the route you'd prefer to go down.

[–] Dadifer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I put Windows 11 on it's own hard drive, so it couldn't corrupt the rest of the system.

[–] mcv@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For an additional layer of security, throw the hard drive into a deep lake.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago

Of magma or plasma, whichever is most convenient.

[–] polle@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Or you could just install linux.

[–] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm a Linux user but not everyone has that privilege.

I just want everyone to have an OS that works for them, and I'm getting kinda tired of that being a hot take.

[–] polle@feddit.org 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I can understand that point. But putting more effort into making windows half normal and kinda usable seems like wasting time, Its an uphill battle that you are loosing anyway at some point.

[–] Autisti4@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Sometimes linux is just not possible with the hardware :(

I tried my best, but neither my SP7's touch screen or pen functionality work properly with linux (even with the linux-surface-kernel). And there's still no good alternatives for SPs in the market either, for tablet+computer+works properly for art (at least any I could ever afford)

[–] polle@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago
[–] archonet@lemy.lol 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The Framework 12 actually seems really ideal for this, being that it has a 360 degree hinge and works properly with Linux.

It's also expensive as fuck, but then, you can repair and upgrade it, and I've heard Surface tablets are an absolutely miserable experience to try repairing. So up to you if the upfront cost is worth less pain down the road.

[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

I don't think the pen input sensitivity/features on it is suitable for pro-level artists, but I might be wrong.

[–] archonet@lemy.lol 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

see my other comment, the framework includes "MPP 2.0 and USI 2.0 stylus support", so it should be able to use other pens it if the one they sell isn't to your liking.

[–] Autisti4@sopuli.xyz 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Still not there for art, sadly. For example their pen has only half of the pressure sensitivity SPs better pens have :(

[–] archonet@lemy.lol 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

The Framework 12 lists "MPP 2.0 and USI 2.0 stylus support", so you can use other pens with it, I think. Your stylus won't be repairable, but perhaps if you complain at Framework loudly enough they might eventually release a higher quality stylus themselves.

If it's a limitation of the machine's hardware/the protocol they support, complain at them for that instead. I'm not an artist so I don't actually find myself needing/using a pen often, thus I don't know whether that means it has good or bad pen support, but it certainly sounds like it supports SPs.

[–] Fluke@feddit.uk 5 points 1 day ago

I like you.

I'm as much a nerd as the next, but I also play a lot of different games, with a lot of different people on different platforms, and that's not feasible (yet) on anything other than windows.

I hate it, but it is what it is.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

"If you must use Windows"

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

But how will I sub to billionaire domsss??? This is blasphemy! Burn the witch!!!!!

[–] lefixxx@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

thats my setup, thats the most tolerable version ATM