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[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 79 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

The limit of space is widely defined as 100 km, which no commercial plane even nearly crosses.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Yeah that's called Kármán line, but it's just arbitrary line. ISS is still orbiting within Earth's thermosphere

[–] lauha@lemmy.world 53 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes, definitions are arbitrary but that is the definition of space.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

One can be simultaneously on earth, and in space. In fact we all are

But I'm just arguing that while orbiting earth and being within the Earth's atmosphere, it's pretty much still on Earth. Just like you're still at home even if you're at the on the yard or even just outside the gate picking up mail from the mailbox. Looking at it from distance, it really doesn't make difference

[–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I'm also orbiting the sun, ergo, I am a planet

[–] Test_Tickles@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's not like citizenship you don't get to be a planet just because your mom is.

[–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Look, I won't go down without a fight like pluto did

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

But you are also spinning around (with) the earth, so wouldn't that make you a moon?

[–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Momma always told me to 'aim for a planet, even if you miss you'll still be a moon'

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

M-O-O-N, that's how you spell Tom Cullen.

[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 2 points 1 month ago

Plus you've got nippes so you can be milked.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

You're part of a planet for sure :)

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Look at Mr "hasn't cleared his orbit" over here getting all up in Plutos face. Neptune is being real quiet right now.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (3 children)

What does "ISS" stand for again? I forgot.

[–] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 month ago

Imperial Starship. Wait, wrong comm.

[–] TaTTe@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Islamic State of Syria

[–] FundMECFS@piefed.zip 4 points 1 month ago

International Space Station

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

The Karman Line's lowest theoretical point is still substantially higher up than commercial airplanes and its highest is substantially lower than the ISS. Most nations agree on it as the boundary for the purposes of law and regulation. Commercial airplanes fly about half as high as the line, while spacecraft orbit at four times its altitude or more.

It may be scientifically arbitrary, but it's got a lot going for it as a rough approximation.

[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Hérë, håvē ßòmê mõrè.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My favorite fact is that earth's atmosphere extends 95,000 miles / 150,000 km beyond the moon.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I couldn't find any source for that, but exosphere is considered to extend to 10,000km or 190,000km, from which the latter is about halfway to the moon.

Anyways those numbers are pretty damn tiny even on a small solar system scale

Anyways, even if you look from very close, from our own moon to the earth, anything on the low earth orbit is so extremely close to the planet. Just look at some of the famous earthrise photos, and think of something orbiting ~8% of the radius distance

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

But a plane is not "on earth"?

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Extremely pedantically, sure. But under that level of pedantry, the whole metric falls apart anyway because there's surely never or rarely been a point in recorded human history where someone hasn't jumped/fallen/not been physically touching the ground themselves (let alone this having been measurable). What about "touching"; your feet are just repelling the ground via electromagnetism.

It's really obvious what the metric is, and trying to pedant-proof it isn't worth bloating it into a mouthful. We can just recognize what it obviously means, say "oh, neat", and move on with our day.

[–] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 month ago

The last time everybody was touching a solid object connected to the Earth by touching other solid objects is probably around 15,000 years ago, when humans crossed over into the Americas. Before then, it would probably occur regularly that nearly all humans are asleep and the handful that are awake happen to all be touching the ground.

[–] Rolder@reddthat.com 4 points 1 month ago

Does it really count as being “on earth” if you’re standing on a floor instead of having your feet directly touch the dirt?

[–] davidgro@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I guess you could count the atmosphere as part of earth, then things over 100km are in little enough of the atmosphere that it's not really 'touching' it the same way. (For example not generating significant lift)

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

You could also count earth's gravitational field, then nobody ever left it.