In Spanish, we have a saying: "En casa de herrero, cuchara de palo".
A rough translation would be "in the blacksmith's house you'll find wood spoons". It's not a new thing, it's been like that since ancient times.

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 hour ago

Yeah but I doubt that saying has ever been used to mean the blacksmith thinks metal spoons are bad. Right?

It's worth sharing but this post is more about the software engineer knows how much shit is spying on you.

[–] EvacuateSoul@lemmy.world 19 points 3 hours ago

"The cobbler's kids have no shoes" in English.

But this guy is saying he doesn't trust technology not to spy or be vulnerable.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 35 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Is that the same thing? The impression I get is that OPs post is about the IT worker actively distrusting smart tech. While I assume your example is more that the blacksmith doesn't bother with making metal spoons for himself and using what ever he had already, which would be more comparable to a network engineer still using the ISPs shitty router.

[–] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social 24 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

We use it when, for any reason, a person who could easily use something related to their field, doesn't use it. What it means is that if someone who could be using something because they know how it works, isn't using it, there must be a reason.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 14 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Ahh, the impression I got is that one makes it sound like they are avoiding it because they can't be bothered to while the other actively avoids it because its bad.

[–] Mesa@programming.dev 4 points 2 hours ago

I think that is the most "correct" interpretation of it. Maybe they're saying that it's been bent over time.

[–] tutter@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

Wooden spoons are better for cooking with cast iron pots and pans, which a blacksmith, being knowledgeable about metal, would be vey aware of.

Just as the it person is way more aware of the pitfalls of smart tech than your average person

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I thought it was just teflon that is too weak to handle metal tools.

[–] tutter@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Metal tools also scrape the bottom lining that forms over time off, which is a big no no when cooking with cast iron.

[–] harmbugler@piefed.social 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Are you sure? I've often heard chainmail recommended to clean cast iron.

[–] tutter@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 56 minutes ago* (last edited 54 minutes ago)

P sure (but not entirely) that thats for when you purposely want to remove the lining, fx for resale, to make it look brand new

Havent personally heard chainmail reccomended tho, mostly heard of steel sponges, chainmail sounds way cooler tho lol

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

Sure but what us the downside? It us a huge field with everything from local to requiring the cloud. You can't blanket it all together.

[–] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

That ks for sharing this, this is fascinating.

Maybe the underlying rule is: the more you know about something, the more you are aware of its flaws, making the alternatives you know less about more attractive?

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

I think there are definitely different applications of the phrase and different versions of it.

As someone that does a "traditional" trade. I do work in leathercraft. My friends and family all have nice pieces I've made them. I've literally yet to make myself more than a belt. And it's just a piece I didn't like enough when it was done. So I remade another for the person I meant to give it to.

Not that I wouldn't like a nice piece for myself. But, it's just a lot more fun to make something for someone else.