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    [–] whydudothatdrcrane@lemmy.ml 0 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

    Any licenses that restrict what you can do are neither

    I am not so sure. What about CC-BY-SA? Open source, share-alike, but restricts modifying the code. More broadly, from the start CC licenses were described as "Some rights reserved".

    Libre software restricts people from sharing code under another closed license. So I think that your statement is not correct either. FLOSS licenses can very much restrict what you can do, and do so very regularly.

    [–] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

    What about CC-BY-SA? Open source, share-alike, but restricts modifying the code.

    What? That's not true at all. You can make derivative works with CC-BY-SA.

    Edit: your comment was wrong in multiple ways, and I only addressed one before replying.

    In addition to simply not saying what you claimed it says, CC-BY-SA is also not, in fact, "Open Source" because it doesn't appear on the list of OSI-approved Open Source licenses. That means OSI either rejected it or didn't evaluate it at all. (I assume the latter, in this case, because CC-BY-SA isn't even intended for software source code to begin with!)

    Libre software restricts people from sharing code under another closed license.

    No, copyright law itself restricts people from sharing code. "Open Source" or "Free Software" licenses relax those restrictions. Restrictions are never added by the license, only conditions limiting when they may be relaxed.

    [–] whydudothatdrcrane@lemmy.ml 0 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

    You can make derivative works with CC-BY-SA.

    No.

    No, copyright law itself restricts people from sharing code. “Open Source” or “Free Software” licenses relax those restrictions. Restrictions are never added by the license, only conditions limiting when they may be relaxed.

    This is exactly why copyleft licenses are now implemented within the context of intellectual property law. You can't have a socialist biodome specifically for code.

    CC-BY-SA is also not, in fact, “Open Source” because it doesn’t appear on the list of OSI-approved Open Source licenses.

    Any license that prohibits modification will do. As any license that prohibits redistribution under a closed license will also do.

    EDIT: "do" = to refute your statement, from which you just so vehemently distanced yourself, lmao

    [–] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

    You can make derivative works with CC-BY-SA.

    No.

    The rest of your word salad isn't even worth responding to.

    [–] whydudothatdrcrane@lemmy.ml 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

    Well, my bad. I meant CC-BY-ND.

    The rest of your word salad isn’t even worth responding to.

    Now go refute my other arguments, which totally refute your fallacious statement that open source entails copyleft because Richard Stoolman wants it that way. Let's not discuss what other things he wants his way, lol.

    [–] grue@lemmy.world 0 points 17 hours ago

    Well, my bad. I meant CC-BY-ND.

    Not an open source license, so what the fuck is your point?

    Now go refute my other arguments

    Your word salad isn't coherent enough to form any sort of "argument" in the first place.