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Many people on lemmy.ml deeply respect and admire authoritarian governments and organizations.

Iran, China, North Korea, Soviet Union...

The West has many flaws. But our flaws are nothing compared to these guys.

Iran hangs homosexuals. Iran shot 30,000 people in less than than 2 weeks. The Soviet Union had to build a fucking Iron wall to prevent people from escaping. The Soviets lied about the Chernobyl nuclear explosion. China censors the internet. China wants to eliminate Islam. North Korea is a totalitarian hellscape. Watching anime is a crime.

Why is lemmy.ml so fascinated with authoritarians?

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The Kremlin isn't why communists exist, communists exist and are growing in number due to the ever-clear fact that capitalism is failing globally.

[–] SleeplessCityLights@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You know there are more options that regulation free capitalism and communism?

[–] Riverside@reddthat.com 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Cool, why don't you tell us of these options that actually exist and defeat capitalism for extended periods of time in large portions of the world?

[–] SleeplessCityLights@programming.dev -3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I am not responding and falling into your bad faith discussion, but I am interested in the tirade of a response you are waiting to type out after I say something disagreeable. So enlighten me.

[–] Riverside@reddthat.com 4 points 1 day ago

What's bad faithed about asking for actually existing alternatives to capitalism besides socialism?

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You're not responding because they're right and you've got nothing and you know it

[–] SleeplessCityLights@programming.dev -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Your response affirms my reason for not responding. People that view the world in a black and white way cannot engage in good faith discussion. You are just waiting for a reason to attack, not to be enlightened.

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

You're making shit up and using it as an excuse for failing to offer any response at all, dumb and embarassing

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Kinda? That's like saying there are many types of feudalism. Feudalism, capitalism, and socialism all describe currently or historically existing modes of production and distribution, but each society itself has its own characteristics based on level of development, the environment, etc. Communism is a post-socialist, global society, so we won't bother with discussing it at present. Within socialism itself, there are clear differences between how it works in China, vs. how it works in Cuba, as an example.

What's common to capitalism is that it's unsustainable over the very long term, and its contradictions become more apparent and fragile the more centralized it becomes, and it necessarily is always working towards this centralization. Socialism solves the problems with capitalism, and is a marked step forward onto the next mode of production and distribution. This is true in general, but each case in particular will have its own unique characteristics to be considered.

[–] SleeplessCityLights@programming.dev -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have traveled the world and have seen economies of different types function in first person. The only definitive is that the extreme ends of the spectrum have the same result. Scarcity for the common person.

I have been in a place that did not have any flour for making bread aquirable by the common person, while having the streets full of beggars. And you can't tell me which system I am talking about.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

Systems do not change conditions overnight. Many socialist countries became such a way after being ravaged by colonialism and imperialism, sanctioned and plundered. Socialism does better than capitalism scientifically.

[–] StopTech@lemmy.today -5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You mean human societies everywhere are failing and some people attribute that to capitalism

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Nope, socialist countries are showing positive movement and steady progress, and global south countries are escaping underdevelopment traps.