I know right. It's so weird here. People should just negotiate after tax salary and calculate everything after tax. But I guess everyone likes saying big numbers and then get angry government is taking a portion.

Honestly you should just have business pay tax like: x% for profits + y% (less than x) for employees' salaries. That way they've incentives to pay salary over keeping profits (growing company is better long term). And employees don't have to pay any tax themselves. And they negotiate amd work for after tax salary, no need to feel like gov is taking their money.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 1 points 10 hours ago

So here in Italy it's advisable to use "RAL" when discussing employment contracts, which is yearly GROSS pay, but it's also rather easy to translate that amount to net pay, and it's what people usually do