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The behavioural cue of ‘flexible self-protection’ is a way to establish whether an animal feels pain, scientists say

Crickets that received the hot probe “overwhelmingly” directed their attention to the affected antenna – they groomed it more frequently, and tended to it over a longer period of time, he says. “They weren’t just agitated and flustered. They were directing their attention to the actual antennae that was hit with this hot probe.”

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[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 99 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Pain is probably one of the original sensations. I doubt you could find any creature on Earth that doesn't feel it. It is extremely useful for staying alive. I bet we will find out plants even feel some form of pain if we haven't already.

[–] CarpalTunnelButt@sh.itjust.works 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I've seen videos of single cell organisms, and even they look like they feel pain when stabbed or eaten.

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

On the contrary I've seen one where one cell passes straight through another cell, making a hole. The cell that was passed through did not react at all and kept about its business afterwards, even regaining shape. Wild.

[–] CarpalTunnelButt@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 hours ago

Crazy, I think I've seen that one too !

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's been several studies that say they might, but nothing entirely conclusive. Some say that the smell of freshly cut grass might be the grass screaming in pain and warning the rest.

[–] mech@feddit.org 43 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

It's not to warn the rest, it's even way cooler.
The smell attracts carnivores, and tells them "Hey there's some tasty herbivores over here" so they take care of the problem. The grass is snitching on the sheep.

Presumably that's why we like the smell of freshly mown grass, too (but such statements are impossible to prove in evolutionary biology).

[–] macmacfire@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 hours ago

"The Grass is Snitching on the Sheep" sounds like the ramblings of a madman but here it's just awesome.

[–] xep@discuss.online 15 points 1 day ago

I see, that's why sometimes we have to touch grass, so we can high five it for being a bro.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

That's cool AF, thanks.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It depends on how you define "creature" and "pain". There's surely some single cell life that doesn't. Are those creatures? Also, for plants, there's growing evidence that many do release chemicals when hurt, which other plants and animals react to. Is that pain? I'd answer yes to both of those, but both are not hard definitions. They can be argued either way.

[–] inari@piefed.zip 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

For plants it wouldn't make much sense since they can't really run away or otherwise stop the pain

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago

There are heat sensitive ones that curl up.

It might reduce surface area or help survive overheating.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Also worth saying that for animals, when someone nibbles off your arm, that's a serious injury which can strongly affect your survival chances. For plants, that's just a regular workday.

Kind of been my hardest lesson in keeping houseplants, too. Seemingly most plants need to be nibbled on (or ya know, get cut back), otherwise they will try to grow towards the sky and hurt themselves in the process.

I've killed two basil plants, because you look away for one second and they just grow half a meter tall. To support the weight, they become woody at the base. And eventually, they can't sustain the leaves at the top anymore, but when you cut them down to the woody part, they can't grow leaves on that anymore, so RIP... 🫠

because you look away for one second and they just grow half a meter tall.

Were they bolting? Bolting occurs when the plant is getting ready to flower, usually in response to high temperatures.

If you see your basil plant beginning to bolt, give it a trim. Otherwise it'll turn bitter. The link provided has more information about when and how to trim it to keep bolting under wraps.

[–] thefluffiest@feddit.nl 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Pops and cracks from a stressed plant doesn't mean a physical sensation of pain is occurring.

[–] thefluffiest@feddit.nl 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A stressed human screaming doesn’t mean a physical sensation of pain is occurring

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Humans have nervous systems. Plants do not.

This is a science community. Do you have evidence that plants have a way to transmit or process pain signals? Or are you anthropomorphizing a plant’s reaction to stimuli?

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It depends on the definition:

a basic bodily sensation that is induced by a noxious stimulus, is received by naked nerve endings, is associated with actual or potential tissue damage, is (such as pricking, throbbing, or aching), and typically leads to evasive action

It does fit this definition. The only part that arguably doesn't fit is the "characterized by physical discomfort" part, but that's characterized by, not defined by. It isn't necessarily required, and I can see an argument to say it's true for many plants too.

To say it's definitely not pain I think is far too strong a belief. I can go either way on it. I would lean towards calling it pain, but it's far from clear.

As you said, this is a scientific community. One of the most important things to science is being skeptical of our biases and pre-existing ideas. Claiming they don't feel pain for certain is not that.

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Plants don't have nerves at all, so no

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

OK, yeah. They don't, but they do have chemical receptors. They don't technically have a nervous system, but they can react to stimuli.

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 points 30 minutes ago

A bear trap can react to stimuli