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I don’t think many people on here are into classic cars much, but if they allow more ethanol in gas that’s going to fuck up a pretty large amount of classic cars. Modern fuel lines are plastic to deal with the ethanol and impact resistance. before that we used rubber, and the current widely used (cheap) replacement fuel hose tolerates ethanol at the levels we had well enough for a few years.
So there’s a decent chance this would burn down a bunch of cars (and boats) when the fuel lines dissolve from the ethanol and start spilling gas.
It's not just classic cars, cars from the 2000s have rubber fuel lines as well.
Oh lord. Are 2000s cars classic cars now? Someone take me out back and shoot me.
In this economy? Bullets aren't free.
You can just mill around with the rest of us.
My state's rule:
So a 2000 or 2001 model year car would count now.
25+ years is generally considered classic/historic.
... My only vehicle is from 2012, and there is less than a zero percent chance I can get anything else. I'm so fucked, aren't I?
Good news, you're not fucked. Your car has been running on roughly 10-15% ethanol its entire life. If you havnt had problems yet, you likely won't. Unless they go full stupid and put an absurd amount in of ethanol in, then it won't effect most cars on the road today.
If you own a classic car and aren’t running ethanol free gas (it exists) then you are a bad car owner.
Or you can just put an ethanol rated carb kit and fuel line in it and not have to worry about it.
Or that. Otherwise you’re just ruining a great car.
How old counts as "classic?" I've been using plain ol' "up to 10%" in my '90...
E10 should be okay but check your owner’s manual or ask someone who knows more.
The main problem with ethanol in rubber fuel lines is that ethanol causes hardening and flaking of the rubber. Long before it ever gets bad enough to leak the little flakes of hardened rubber detatch from the inside of the line and travel down to fuel pumps, injectors, and carburators. Where they clog up all the small metered orifices that regulate the amount of fuel the engine is getting. This can lead to the car just not running or running poorly, to the internal components of the engine breaking or seizing, thus trashing the whole engine.
I thought most of those boats sunk/vehicles burned from the first round of ethanol addition? Any fiberglass fuel tank went to the bottom eventually as I understand it.
If you're driving a classic car in the middle of a gas crisis, you kinda deserve it, imo. Those things are about the only thing more inefficient than a jacked up pavement princess.
Edit: learned that "classic" has a much broader definition than I thought. Oops.
I drive a car thati bought used over a decade ago. It's cost effective, paid for and not a gas guzzler. Fuck me though cause I own an old car. One with rubber gas lines.
Did I say "fuck people with slightly older cars"?
I was specifically responding to op complaining about affecting classic cars. It sucks that your slightly older car might be affected by this, but don't jump into the shade and pretend I threw it at you.
"Classic car" isn't just some vibe. It's literally a legal term for cars of a certain age. Depending on the country it refers to >15, >20 or >25 years old cars. That means you can have a relatively fuel efficient car that is considered a classic car.
The first Toyota Prius came out 1997 (29 years ago) and would be considered a classic car today.
Well, I guess that's what I get for not being a car guy lol. I had no clue that the cutoff was so recent, I thought "classic" was for cars from the last century. TIL.
Just so we’re clear, “the last century“ was 26 years ago…
In my experience, "classic" is over 20, "antique" is over 25.
I’m actually driving my 1971 MGB around these days because I get 55MPG since it has 75ish horsepower and weighs about 2000lbs total lol
That sounds like a fun time lol. I was more envisioning the old school 10 mpg boats from the 70s and 80s.