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eyyy there goes $140 million dollars just so the chuds could take their chud-to-be tax burden kids to gawk at the military propaganda while saying "whooooa look at da airpwane"
I hate this take. Air shows are awesome, they fascinate children and adults alike. Seeing these machines first hand is inspiring...
There's little enough in this world that I would describe as "inspiring", so I'll take what I can get.
Yeah we're going to hell in a handbasket because the racoon part of our brain that likes shiny things is just so strong
I'm divided on airshows. I get that the spectacle is impressive. They're also literal monuments to war that are burning an excessive amount of fuel to operate.
I get that you probably don't have multiple military aircraft flying overhead every day. I chose to live in San Diego without knowing that was gonna be my version of the train that I had to learn to ignore. So that probably colors my thinking, as well as being a Navy Vet.
Personally I'd prefer more museums so they can be shown off without burning more fuel than is needed.
Seing one operating in person and seing one on display are two very different things.
But military airshows are not just for ordinary people to be amazed. It's an opportunity for the manufacturer to market their airplanes.
And while it does burn a lot of fuel. It's nothing compared to all the private jets flying around the world.
I'm pretty sure Taylor Swifts jet burns more fuel in a year than all airshows combined.
you are "pretty sure"... that flying hundreds of aircraft at the limits of their acceleration and capabilities (to put on a dramatic show for spectators) at hundreds of air shows around the world... uses less fuel than a single private jet flying routine passenger deliveries ?
press X to doubt
Most of the acts aren't military aircraft. Lots of acrobatics in private plans and such. The jets are impressive though.
Petty name calling, what a great addition to this community.
Almost ironic really, I'm appreciating childlike wonder, and you're acting like a child.
Stfu, airshows and jets are fun to watch
See also: monster trucks, demolition derbies, fireworks, contact sports, and so much more. Wasteful and dangerous? Yep. Fun? Also yep.
In fairness to contact sports / martial arts, when done properly, they can be significantly less dangerous, teach discipline and respect, instill a sense of realism and proportionality regarding the application of violence, keep you in decent physical shape, provide your life with a routine structure, and provide some real world socializing/social group.
Many also come with some kind of a philosophy that stresses self defense and essentially a 'duty to retreat' mentality: violence is always the last resort.
They're fun as fuck. Some of the best pics I have are from an air show! f35
^f35 doing a zooom!
F-22 for life lol, 2000s era Lockheed tincan doesn't even look good after they threw all my tax money at it.
Designs should've never progressed past the F-104. Change my mind.
Nothing will top lawn dart and the slick F-86 haha
Air shows appeal to the male fantasy of being Tom Cruise / go really fast
Kickstart My Heart but you're avoiding Air Defense in WW3
Fuck off. Girls also like to go fast and literally flying. Seeing the pinnacle of flight engineering and human ability is enjoyable in the same ways as a car, tech, robotics, boats, trains, etc... Show or race. Weird thread of people wanting to be mad.
Saw the RedBull Air Race in NYC. Amazing stuff.
there are plenty of things which are fun to watch which didn't involve spending billions of tax dollars on killing machines
So are drag races and monster truck rallies. Big and fast machines attract and fascinate mostly men.
..which aren’t (usually) paid for with taxpayer dollars
But I’m guessing doing air shows counts towards training hours, so they’re going to be flying those planes regardless. Still feels like a massive waste when two of them crash and burn in a show though
It happens during training, too,so I don't really see a distinction.
Most airshows I've been aren't put on by the military, they are usually just invited to a segment but often times they don't even show up.
Most planes are privately owned like old planes or stunt pilots.
The military jets definitely cost money to move around so it is an extra expense
I'm pretty sure it does. Flyovers at ballgames etc do so I don't see why airshows wouldn't.
That's definitely not true. Maybe it is in the US, but seeing machines go fast or tackle complex challenges isn't a gender-specific thing. For example, 42% of Formula 1 fans are female. Plenty of women spectating and competing at drag strips, land speed, rally, etc.
The old conservative culture of assuming things of people or pigeonholing them based on gender—like, "attract and fascinate mostly men"—is not as relevant as it used to be back in the old days, nor should it be preserved.
Those arent used to bomb innocent civilians... Wtf are you talking about?
also racecar/nascar, its so mind-numbing boring, but conservative seems to love any kind of sports.
Only if it's young dudes playing. Conservative men also love movies where it's mostly just young dudes (like that 300 movie where the cast is all handsome young dudes in leather panties being led by an older middle aged dude) They really seem to prefer young dudes in general I guess.
Perfect example of the kind of comment that makes social media so toxic to everyone.
I see some people make similar comments in the gun community here in Australia. Everything they disagree with is considered controversial
These things are often in part military recruitment drives. There are plenty of airshows that don't use fighter jets and don't have military booths there (which I'm guessing is happening at that airshow).
My aerobatics instructor (who actually once had a mid air collision and still managed to land the plane by using thrust to pitch) used to fly at a lot of smaller shows where it was genuinely about planes and the pilots, and no hidden agenda
It doesn't mean the pilots are there for the military, but it is a huge part of it imho. It's cool to see military planes, but, they're there so people go "wow, I want to join "air force"
Actually, celebrating child-bombing devices crashing is not toxic!