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[Jesus sits on a rock, speaking]
A new commandβ€―I give you:
Love one another

[an angry character talks back to Jesus]
What if they're something bad like gay, trans, brown, or communist though?

[Jesus is facepalming on his rock]
I don't want to be a messiah anymore

https://thebad.website/comic/gospel_of_love

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[–] bss03@infosec.pub 19 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Contrariwise, you are also commanded to love racists, homophobes, transphobes, and authoritarians. You can certainly try to convince them away from those stances, but you are still supposed to be kind, even generous, to the persons.

Unconditional love can be heartbeatingly hard.

[–] cinoreus@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

I can assure more than half of them are redeemable.

[–] TheGoldenV@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I’m going with the paradox of tolerance on that.

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Yeah. I still think we owe the intolerant subsistence, but because of the Paradox of Tolerance, I think intolerance could be grounds for denial of political power--any of the 4 boxes (soap, ballot, jury, ammo)--at least for the duration of the intolerance. (But also, there should be some method to "rehabilitate" a person's access to political power after they are no longer intolerant.)

I also think it might be difficult to adjudicate "intolerance" in some cases, but in the most necessary of cases it is quite clear.

don't click if you don't want a little theology. i am just going to shotgun fire off some bullshit.okay, so: former christian clergy and current head of a pagan cult (i worship the god of convergent evolution, blasphemy, gluttony, and atheism) current membership 4, 5 when my mormon mother is humoring me and comes to the crab shack for lunch. my current job is church musician because the instrument [not gonna say which. ask and i'll say yes] i play is very very expensive, i can't afford one (i literally only have ever met one individual who owns one) and churches tend to own them. i can trade my services for an hour a week of practice time and two songs performance time a month unless i can figure out a way to move at least 2500 miles to ply my musical trade for real. or someone wants to give me 76 grand for an instrument.
christianity's commandment to love people does not conflict with the paradox of tolerance. you're not just commanded to love your neighbors, you're commanded to love your enemies.
there's a lot of cultural bullshit in the turn the other cheek and etc shit in the parables jesus teaches. like, slapping someone on the right cheek was a small insult, but slapping them on the left cheek was a big one. so turning the other cheek doesn't just mean give them another chance to hurt you, it's teaching the christians of that time that if someone is insulting you by slapping you in the face, a very culturally specific insult, give them the other cheek and invite them to make it a bigger insult. be like "hey i know i'm a christian and all. show everyone around here how big and tough you are picking on me". i try to think about it. i've tried it. Deescalation through escalation.

like Giles Corey.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Compassionate love does not require kindness and generosity in the way you mean those words. It does not require making yourself vulnerable to danger, it does not require giving material or emotional support. You should still be able to recognize and respond to the humanity in a flawed person.

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 2 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

I believe if you are following the words of Jesus, then yes, it does require kindness and generosity, with their standard meanings. "Love your neighbor as yourself." – Jesus

I agree that it doesn't require sacrificing your safety.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 0 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

While Jesus is an authority and primary source on a number of things, He is neither of those things for compassionate love. I think in this decontextualized instance, "thy neighour" actually has a specific meaning that is being stripped, possibly referring to the other tribes of Israel, such as in his parable about the good Samaritan that people commonly misunderstand. I wouldn't be willing to draw much from it without a much deeper reading.

I'm not making a dogmatic argument, I'm making a much more grounded claim about psychology and spirituality. Compassionate love is a real thing that we know stuff about.

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 1 points 7 hours ago

"I tell you, love your enemies" -- Jesus https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+5%3A43-48&version=NIV

I'm engaging in the thread, the leader of which is a meme featuring Jesus, so it is more relevant what Jesus said than "claims about psychology and spirituality".

I was raised Baptist, but I no longer adhere to it dogmatically.

Good thing I'm not beholden to that religion, then!

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Only money lenders (we totally didn't secretly mean Jews)