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TenForward: Where Every Vulcan Knows Your Name

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 52 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

"No one will ever believe you, but that actually was the name of where I was stationed. I believe it is what you humans call 'a humorous place name,' such as 'Intercourse, Pennsylvania' and 'Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch' in Wales."

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 30 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch

I've been there!

Weather man nailing the name of the village: https://youtu.be/fHxO0UdpoxM

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

I've never been, but I've known of the name for years. It's also a password in the movie Barbarella.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5GMB-IYQ8Q

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 40 points 6 months ago (3 children)

These panels really need to be mirrored. I kept reading the dialogue balloons out of order.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 17 points 6 months ago

Typographical hierarchy and the graphical hierarchy of order aren’t things they teach you in design school for no reason.

I’m not much of an illustrator myself. I appreciate the work and talent and skill that goes into making these… but how do you get so good at making these without understanding some of the fundamentals of design and layout?

[–] Steve 12 points 6 months ago (2 children)

In comicbook word/thought bubbles, height in the panel always trumps laterality. It's standard practice. You get used to it quickly.

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

Yes, but Tuvok's bubbles are only barely lower than Paris' bubbles. Since there isn't significant white space above Tuvok's bubbles, it's easy to read those first even when you're used to comics, especially since they're in the upper left corner. Move Tuvok's bubble in the first panel to between Tuvok's and Paris' heads and that one gets much easier to read. Panel four would also benefit from larger text size on Paris' line.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If you have to insist something is obvious, it's not.

[–] Steve 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I would agree.
But that's not what I did.
In fact my mentioning that someone has to "get used to it" would directly acknowledge it isn't obvious.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Okay, rephrasing:

If you have to insist something is unremarkable, it's not.

This comic is an example of someone fucking up the basics for comic dialog layout. Multiple people note that it's ambiguous and could easily be improved. You can argue it's reasonable. But you can't take it for granted. Insisting on convention doesn't mean anything when people plainly familiar with the convention say this fucked it up.

[–] Steve 1 points 6 months ago

Again, I didn't do that either.
I merely explained the standard convention.
I made no comment as to this comic specifically.

[–] toast@retrolemmy.com 6 points 6 months ago
[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

It feels weird for Tuvok to call him "Paris" for some reason, but I also haven't seen VOY in a long time. Did he usually refer to him as Lieutenant?

Also, this has to be an aftereffect of being Tuvix.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah that hit me wrong too. I believe he often addresses him Lt. Paris or Mr. Paris.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Except when he was Ensign Paris for a little while.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago

Depends if you subscribe to the timeline that the biomimetic Paris was the one demoted instead of the real Paris.

Some people think that's why for a few episodes, Paris can be seen with both lieutenant and ensign pips on his collar.

[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 10 points 6 months ago

Paris looks like Vaultboy's cousin in this

[–] VelvetStorm@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I get some capt holt vibes here.

[–] CptEnder@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

This isn't Seska, you're just some common Kazon

[–] Kiernian@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Hhahahahahahahaahaha

This is awesome!

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Is handwriting a font?